How Much Do You Respect Holyfield

[Sugar Adam Ali]

And speaking of grudge matches, you can't forget Mayorga.

yeah mayorga was def a grudge match with all the trash talk.. I loved the fact that oscar came out and almost beheaded mayorga with that first left hook combo...

[Anthony342]

Me too, I loved when he beat the hell out of Mayorga and Vargas. Even past his prime, Oscar proved that it was not a good idea to tick him off.

[Holywarrior]

Certainly possible but then is Rid**** Bowe ahead of Lewis?

Holyfield has the Moorer, Foreman, Tyson and Bowe wins

Lewis has Holyfield, Ruddock, Bruno

Holyfield was easily the best heavy of the 90s

[MrRolltide91]

Because he fought everyone..

Beat Floyd's uncle Jeff mayweather in oscars fourth or fifth pro fight

Dominant championship level wins vs leija, genaro, molina, ruales

Passing of the torch fights with pernell, camacho, Chavez

Big time showdowns vs other undefeated great prime fighter Ike, Tito, Shane

Won a grudge match vs Vargas

Took big challenges like sturm and Hopkins

Fought the new eras best in Floyd and manny

Hopkins Floyd and manny were all p4p #1 when oscar fought them
Shane, Tito, pernell were all top 5 p4p guys

Oscar fought everyone, that's how he did it

why wasn't roy jones a cash cow, dude was #1 p4p for along time?

[Holywarrior]

There is no shame in losing to Toney. He is a great fighter....The reason he beat Holyfield is the reason Holyfield is not as great as the "cult of the Bastard Maker" seem to think...Lets look at two crackerjack boxers that fought Holly; michael Moore and james Toney. Holy is great when he can slug it out but a really good boxer could trouble him. Botha got to Holly as well and Ibrigamov beat him, both also boxers.

Seriously? Holyfield was shot when he fought Toney.

[GOD-FR33]

Exactly.........

Exactly. I said this some weeks back about the Toney fight. EH would've beaten Toney's fat ass into a stoppage in his PRIME or even the Holyfield that fought Tyson and Moore 2. People say the dumbest **** on here but supposedly knows boxing. Nobody his size or smaller beats him. He would've been too strong for Toney like he was for Tyson, Cooper, Qwali, and Moore. He was OLD against Ruiz 1, 2, 3, Larry Donald, Chris Byrd, The Russian he fought, etc. None of those fights meant anything. Holy was stubborn and OLD. If anyone thinks any of those fighters beat him because they were better, is ******.

[Holywarrior]

Exactly. I said this some weeks back about the Toney fight. EH would've beaten Toney's fat ass into a stoppage in his PRIME or even the Holyfield that fought Tyson and Moore 2. People say the dumbest **** on here but supposedly knows boxing. Nobody his size or smaller beats him. He would've been too strong for Toney like he was for Tyson, Cooper, Qwali, and Moore. He was OLD against Ruiz 1, 2, 3, Larry Donald, Chris Byrd, The Russian he fought, etc. None of those fights meant anything. Holy was stubborn and OLD. If anyone thinks any of those fighters beat him because they were better, is ******.

Yeah I can't believe this is even being discussed. The cruiserweight holyfield would've kicked cuiserrweight Toney's ass as well.

[GOD-FR33]

Agreed.

I totally agree.

[Holywarrior]

I totally agree.

It's sad when a fighter's longevity gets held against them. Like Archie Moore. Poor guy, Hopkins is the same these days.

[GOD-FR33]

Yeah..........

Hopkins is next to be Ko'ed. He's too old to be in a boxing ring. As soon as he fights a REAL fighter, he's getting stopped. This is why he made it very clear that he doesn't want any part of Andre Ward.