most shady promoter/manager in boxing history

[Sugar Adam Ali]

WHo is the most shady promoter or manager in the history of boxing,,,

please tell some stories for whoever you say.

[StarshipTrooper]

WHo is the most shady promoter or manager in the history of boxing,,,

please tell some stories for whoever you say.

Tie between Don King and Jim Norris.

[New England]

probably don king.

he killed two people. he shot a man who was robbing his sportsbook / ******** house. he also stomped a man to death over a $600 debt. he did four years in prison, and was later pardoned.

he's been sued dozens of times.

only in america.

[StarshipTrooper]

probably don king.

he killed two people. he shot a man who was robbing his sportsbook / ******** house. he also stomped a man to death over a $600 debt. he did four years in prison, and was later pardoned.

he's been sued dozens of times.

only in america.

All good points.

Jim Norris was the front man running the IBC for mobsters Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo back in the 40s and 50s.

[Anthony342]

Wouldn't the more difficult question be "which boxing promoters and managers aren't actually lying, corrupt sacks of crap"? Does anyone fall under THAT category? Duvas, Goosens? I really don't know.

[StarshipTrooper]

Wouldn't the more difficult question be "which boxing promoters and managers aren't actually lying, corrupt sacks of crap"? Does anyone fall under THAT category? Duvas, Goosens? I really don't know.

Oh that one's easy! None of them lol! :hahahaha9:

[Scott9945]

Don King will always be first on my list. Everyone should read "Only in America: The Life and Crimes of Don King", Jack Newfield's tremendous book about him.

[Scott9945]

Wouldn't the more difficult question be "which boxing promoters and managers aren't actually lying, corrupt sacks of crap"? Does anyone fall under THAT category? Duvas, Goosens? I really don't know.

They are all flawed, but Kathy Duva seems like the best of the recent.

[Cardinal Buck]

Well, I'm pretty sure 50 Cent has sold a lot of crack and shot guns at people.

[billeau2]

Wouldn't the more difficult question be "which boxing promoters and managers aren't actually lying, corrupt sacks of crap"? Does anyone fall under THAT category? Duvas, Goosens? I really don't know.

Lol.

Well when considering the animal one must consider the jungle. King is certainly the most ruthless but one thing about King.....If you look at his past he took on almost single handedly one of the most violet criminals. Dutch Schultz and his gang was old school. In those days the gangsters were ***ish immigrants and Dutch was living large....like Money May!

King is smart as smart can be in addition to being ruthless...he sort of managed to survive a few attempts oh his life until someone blew dutch up into wittle pieces!

What I take from this is that when we talk about guys like Arum, King and Warren (for example) these guys are ruthless, probably all sociopaths and probably don't make many mistakes.

Now....People of this generation see guys like Oscar, fifty cents trying to make a run of it...I have to laugh. Oscar can't handle the pressure, fifty is neither enough of a G, nor smart enough....I think that to be a succesful boxing promoter is like running a mob family. Ome mistake is all it takes.

I think that Arum and king are two of the most shady, smart, hardasses...I sort of feel that with Warren also but dont know him as well.