Alis chin overated?

[Suckmedry]

Mods delete pls

[Suckmedry]

maybe put it this way, if you could put alis head on chuvalo, holyfield or big George, do you think he could take the shots they took, particulary in their solid stance coz I think alis stance also helped him out when taking those big overhand rights. Take foreman vs chuvalo, could you see ali taking those shots from that stance, I just don't think his physical head was better than those guys

[Ray Corso]

Son........................stop while your making a fool of yourself!

Your not as slick as you think you are, maybe a cartoon forum might suit you better!! Boxing is real and when something is captured on film theres no dis*****g it! Ray

[E-Thug]

So we went from comparing chins to punch resistance then to head diameter?

Circles, circles, something about going in circles...

[likeamulekick]

So we went from comparing chins to punch resistance then to head diameter?

Circles, circles, something about going in circles...

can someone tell me how a chin is defined then, as ray says im not good at the boxing "vocabulary" but when I say chin it is simply how well your skull or jaw can take a shot without being stunned or knocked out, not how well you recover or how well your reflexes and head movement absorb the impact, coz I still stand by the fact that his chin was not as solid as the guys I mentioned, can you see holyfield or chuvalo getting knocked down by henry coopers shot??? Don't get me wrong I started off by saying he had a great chin just not 1 of the greatest of all time.

[BKM-2010]

^Ali wasn't physically matured yet. In his prime he would have eaten that shot without going down. To be honest, I think you're taking the piss. Anybody who watched the Frazier trilogy and a very past prime Ali taking Shavers' best shots will agree that he had one of the best chins ever. Definitely better than Holyfield. McCall and Chuvalo are the only ones I would rank above him with certainty when it comes to punch resistance(although Ali had a thougher body than Oliver).

[Sugarj]

can someone tell me how a chin is defined then, as ray says im not good at the boxing "vocabulary" but when I say chin it is simply how well your skull or jaw can take a shot without being stunned or knocked out, not how well you recover or how well your reflexes and head movement absorb the impact, coz I still stand by the fact that his chin was not as solid as the guys I mentioned, can you see holyfield or chuvalo getting knocked down by henry coopers shot??? Don't get me wrong I started off by saying he had a great chin just not 1 of the greatest of all time.

Clay was wide open for that left hook, he was a lighter underdeveloped kid at that point barely a heavyweight in today's terms in 1963, but he was up straight away.

If you want to see a fully developed 224Lb Ali take several much heavier left hooks than the Henry Cooper example take a look at rounds 5 & 6 of the Thrilla in Manilla.

[kiDynamite92]

Get the f**k outta here! what's next? Tommy Hearns' jab?

Ali did get knocked down a few times, but that's because of him always being on his toes and moving around. They were just flash KD's more than anything. Have you seen the Ali vs Frazier trilogy? watch how many times Joe lands that crunching left hook and Ali still takes it like a man.

[GRboxing]

No way. His chin and recovery were just ridiculous

[Daddy T]

can someone tell me how a chin is defined then, as ray says im not good at the boxing "vocabulary" but when I say chin it is simply how well your skull or jaw can take a shot without being stunned or knocked out, not how well you recover or how well your reflexes and head movement absorb the impact, coz I still stand by the fact that his chin was not as solid as the guys I mentioned, can you see holyfield or chuvalo getting knocked down by henry coopers shot??? Don't get me wrong I started off by saying he had a great chin just not 1 of the greatest of all time.

I'd offer to sell you a shovel to help dig that hole but you seem to be doing well enough without it. Probably time to delete the account and start up again, kid. Maybe start by advising on how Frazier's left hook wasn't as good as most people think ... or maybe how Foreman actually hit like a fairy.