Originally posted by poet682006
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Could Hearns ever beat Hagler?
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Originally posted by McGoorty View PostThanks again Poet, you are doing my job for me, it's good that you are because HE SAID HE Doesn't want to TALK TO ME ANYMORE !!!!!,..... He's the Laurel & Hardy & Buster Keaton & Charlie Chaplin & Harold Lloyd of the History Section........ Many lol's.
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no man alive could take hearns sunday punches from 147 to 160 for 12 rounds (or 15 for that matter)
so of course the answer is yes
hagler was wobbled early in that fight
clearly the potential for victory is realized in that
he could hurt hagler, or any other MW who ever lived for that matter
but he didn't, and likely wouldn't if they fought that same fight over and over again
hagler tucked his chin as well as any man i can remember, which is key for getting away from a long right hand. they really cant see a target from height like that if you tuck your chin well, and the punches land high on the head
and haggler could take the punches from hearns high on the head, he proved that
so i don't think it's likely that hearns would getthat stoppage
and haggler proved that he could back hearns up to the point where he could stop him from boxing and being effective (you cannot box while you are running or moving away without attempting to box and keep and offensive stance, presentation, and posture)
so it's not likely that hearns would do well trying to box
so the odds stack against him
but yes
no mad alive could take those punches flush on the chin for 15 rounds
not one that has to weigh in at 147-160 lbs
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Originally posted by McGoorty View Post20 million dollars for HAGLER V HEARNS II ????????,,...... A BARGAIN, worth every cent,.............. should have happened.
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No, I don't think so.
He isn't knocking him out and I can't see Hearns going the full 15 without being stopped.
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostHagler wanted 20m in purse money and it was after Leonard vs Hearns II. So Hagler would come out of a few years of retirement and Leonard wasn't exactly a huge draw anymore either, whoever supplied that kind of purse to Hagler would have lost money on the fight. It was obviously Hagler just saying "I'm not coming out of retirement."
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For me regardless of Tommys hand or his fight strategy Hagler beats him 10 times out of 10.......
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View PostNever in my opinion. Hearns couldn't hurt Hagler enough to get his respect. And it would be his downfall in every fight. The bottom line is that Hagler was too much for the middleweight Hearns.
Hearns had the ability to beat anyone, IMO, at his best. He just fought the wrong fight too often. As GJC said, he bought into his Hitman persona too much and it was at an all time high going into the Hagler fight. He should have known that Hagler's history had showed that he wasn't going to be knocked out. Duran was a foot shorter with a foot less reach and a natural lightweight. Despite that, it was still a scary feat to KO him, but Hagler was a real middleweight. If Duran had been a natural middleweight at his prime, he wouldn't have been knocked out, to say the least.
I think he could have. As to whether he would have, well, that's another side of it. I'm just glad they did fight like that, because it gave us one of the great wars ever.
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