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    #11
    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
    Harding Johnson and Del Vallle were unification fights.

    Gonzalez has some good wins on his resume the main one is obviously beating Darius.

    Yeah as old he was McCallum was the WBC champ a year before Roy fought him, he lost a close decision to Tiozzo in France. McCaluum had never ever not been highly competitive and Roy totally dominated
    JAB is clearly anti roy

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      #12
      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
      Harding Johnson and Del Vallle were unification fights.

      Gonzalez has some good wins on his resume the main one is obviously beating Darius.

      Yeah as old he was McCallum was the WBC champ a year before Roy fought him, he lost a close decision to Tiozzo in France. McCaluum had never ever not been highly competitive and Roy totally dominated
      Neither Harding nor Johnson had a title so don't try and make it sound like something it wasn't. They were simply defense mandatory of one of Roy's paper titles forced by whichever org.

      DeValle had never fought anyone of note before Jones, except for Hill, and he lost, and never fought anyone of note afterwards.

      McCallum was 40 years old and retiring after his next fight. This is not a prime nor dominant fighter anymore
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        #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        Neither Harding nor Johnson had a title so don't try and make it sound like something it wasn't. They were simply defense mandatory of one of Roy's paper titles forced by whichever org.

        DeValle had never fought anyone of note before Jones, except for Hill, and he lost, and never fought anyone of note afterwards.

        McCallum was 40 years old and retiring after his next fight. This is not a prime nor dominant fighter anymore
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        Johnson was the IBF Light Heavyweight champion and even defended his title a few times before fighting Roy.

        Del Valle was unification fight plain and simple. You can't complain about Roy for not unifying as a 168 champ then complain about him unifying the 175 belts you can't have it both ways.

        When did I say McCallum was prime or dominant? All I said was he was a legitimate 175 contender and Roy dominated him like no one had before.

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          #14
          Originally posted by musiol View Post
          JAB is clearly anti roy
          Actually I think Roy was awesome, I just don't blow up accomplishments for any fighter if its not warranted.

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            #15
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
            Johnson was the IBF Light Heavyweight champion and even defended his title a few times before fighting Roy.

            Del Valle was unification fight plain and simple. You can't complain about Roy for not unifying as a 168 champ then complain about him unifying the 175 belts you can't have it both ways.

            When did I say McCallum was prime or dominant? All I said was he was a legitimate 175 contender and Roy dominated him like no one had before.
            The problem is you're trying to make these fights seem like bigger achievements than they were. Jones did what he had to do, but lets not make it into more than what it was.

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              #16
              Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
              Harding Johnson and Del Vallle were unification fights.

              Gonzalez has some good wins on his resume the main one is obviously beating Darius.

              Yeah as old he was McCallum was the WBC champ a year before Roy fought him, he lost a close decision to Tiozzo in France. McCaluum had never ever not been highly competitive and Roy totally dominated
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Actually I think Roy was awesome, I just don't blow up accomplishments for any fighter if its not warranted.
              roy could of done so much more but he still acheived a hell of alot in his carear

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                #17
                Originally posted by musiol View Post
                roy could of done so much more but he still acheived a hell of alot in his carear
                While I consider his resume a bit soft in comparison to fights that could have been made, I would have still favored him over any of them. But I don't judge fighters on what if's, but rather what was. Now if you ask me about a fantasy h2h fight with Roy he gets a lot more respect for me for what I think he could have done. But again, that isn't something to be looked at as a fact.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                  The problem is you're trying to make these fights seem like bigger achievements than they were. Jones did what he had to do, but lets not make it into more than what it was.
                  Roy made everybody he fought look bad to the point where people like you down play the guys he beat. If he had beaten Eubank Benn Collins Calzaghe and Dariusz you would of acted like they were average fighters also.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                    Roy made everybody he fought look bad to the point where people like you down play the guys he beat. If he had beaten Eubank Benn Collins Calzaghe and Dariusz you would of acted like they were average fighters also.

                    Im not trying to down them. But the fact is that there is little upside to them.

                    Do me a favor and don't make assumptions on how I would have perceived anything. The bottom line is we can on judge by what was. And the guys Jones chose to fight were not as good as the guys he missed out on fighting for one reason or another.

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                      #20
                      I really would like to hear who you think Roy should of fought instead of who he did?

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