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    #31
    Originally posted by dognusty
    If you look at any sport more speed and agility combined with smarts and skill gives that person/team an edge.

    Now if Ali does not use those advantages than he would be in for a long night. Regardless of Ali's chin getting hit cleanly by Louis may KO him.

    If Ali uses those advantages, he can help nullify Louis advantage in punching power by slipping punches and picking of shots with his gloves. By doing this he can force Louis to get into a "boxing" match with him. Which, during Ali's prime, he was excellent at.
    good point, but i doubt that louis would punch hard enough to ko ali.

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      #32
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      an ali in 1974 would have used the rope-a-dope to tire out Louis and then he would go for the kill, kapersky. might i remind you, Ali-Foreman (the rumble in the jungle)
      idiot, louis was a far smarter fighter than foreman ever was. the rope a dope would have done nothing for ali against louis and ali would have been smart enough to know that as well.

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        #33
        Originally posted by blockhead
        idiot, louis was a far smarter fighter than foreman ever was. the rope a dope would have done nothing for ali against louis and ali would have been smart enough to know that as well.
        well, if not the rope-a-dope, he would have used something else in his arsenal; he's just that smart.

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          #34
          Ali by UD. He's too fast.

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            #35
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            well, if not the rope-a-dope, he would have used something else in his arsenal; he's just that smart.

            LOL. That made me laugh out loud. Butterfly, you are such a great fan of Ali - but if you really want some credibility when trying to argue for him - talk about styles, analyse careers and opponents...do something! Just don't say, "he would have used something to beat Joe...he was just that smart".

            Cmon Butterfly.

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              #36
              Originally posted by hellfire508
              LOL. That made me laugh out loud. Butterfly, you are such a great fan of Ali - but if you really want some credibility when trying to argue for him - talk about styles, analyse careers and opponents...do something! Just don't say, "he would have used something to beat Joe...he was just that smart".

              Cmon Butterfly.
              i believe he could have used the rope-a-dope on louis, now that i think about it. ali knew how to cover-up his face, and none of louis body shots would hurt him(if foreman couldn't), so he could have pulled it off.

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                #37
                Originally posted by butterfly1964
                and none of louis body shots would hurt him(if foreman couldn't)
                Considering the relatively light punching Karl Mildenberger hurt Ali with a hook to the body in about the 8th or 9th round of their fight, by your simple logic that must mean he hits harder to the body than Big George does, hey?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Yogi
                  Considering the relatively light punching Karl Mildenberger hurt Ali with a hook to the body in about the 8th or 9th round of their fight, by your simple logic that must mean he hits harder to the body than Big George does, hey?
                  the body training ali did for the foreman fight helped him take those shots. he didn't train the body that much for mildenburger.

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                    #39
                    Butterfly is right. In the second half of his career, Ali would lean on the ropes and let his sparring partner pummel him. He trained himself to take punishment - for his reflexes weren't the same.

                    However- Rope a dope against Joe Louis i suicide. Foreman throws wild punches, and caught Ali flush several times. Louis throws crisp, fast punches - almost as hard - and would pummel Ali to a stoppage. I'm sorry butterfly, but if you know boxing - you know Ali could not win if he rope-a-doped Joe Louis.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by hellfire508
                      Butterfly is right. In the second half of his career, Ali would lean on the ropes and let his sparring partner pummel him. He trained himself to take punishment - for his reflexes weren't the same.

                      However- Rope a dope against Joe Louis i suicide. Foreman throws wild punches, and caught Ali flush several times. Louis throws crisp, fast punches - almost as hard - and would pummel Ali to a stoppage. I'm sorry butterfly, but if you know boxing - you know Ali could not win if he rope-a-doped Joe Louis.
                      louis may have been more accurate than foreman, but he didn't hit harder. so ali would be able to take more punches to the head from louis, so i think it's possible.

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