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    #51
    Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
    who won ?
    - - Ever hear of boxrec?
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      #52
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Ever hear of boxrec?
      who won ?

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        #53
        Originally posted by The plunger man View Post

        who won ?

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          #54
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          And what does boxrec say who won the fight.....so I ask again gumbo who won

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            #55
            Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
            And what does boxrec say who won the fight.....so I ask again gumbo who won
            - - And so you mumbo...

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              #56
              Many board members were probably told by mom (usually) "you are judged by the company you keep." And many sailors are taught "a rising tide raises all boats." Hearns was a part of a group of fighters that set perhaps the highest bar in the boxing divisions often considered the true premier cream of the crop in boxing, to those who truly follow the sport. Hearns was not only competative, but had victories and fights that are the stuff of history.

              Like any big welter, Tommy had real advantages before he went to Middle... As great as Robinson was, some say he was best at his lightest... it stands to reason.

              A couple of my own opinions...
              Tito was a great puncher but the Motown, Maryland, Massachussets, central American gang shiats on him. Not in the same discussion period. As far as Tommy's punch resistance, consider the source. Hearns was not shaky he was fighting hammers!

              I think Leanard was ultimately better... probably the best of the lot... But Ray Leanard was that good.
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                #57
                Hearns gave Leonard a great fight and was winning on the score cards at the time of stoppage. If it's a 12 round fight he wins. I felt he was robbed of a win in their rematch. He gets a lot of heat for his two losses to Barkley, but honestly there is no shame in those losses, Barkley just had his number. One cannot tout the greatness of Leonard without Hearns being in the conversation.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by dansweeney View Post
                  59 wins with only 4 legit losses, ya what a glass chin he had!!! he didnt have the best chin but he had the biggest heart in boxing! and the best non-heavy right hand in the history of the sport, just ask the 46 men he kayo'd
                  He's easily a top five welter imo.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                    Hearns gave Leonard a great fight and was winning on the score cards at the time of stoppage. If it's a 12 round fight he wins. I felt he was robbed of a win in their rematch. He gets a lot of heat for his two losses to Barkley, but honestly there is no shame in those losses, Barkley just had his number. One cannot tout the greatness of Leonard without Hearns being in the conversation.
                    but it wasn’t a 12 round fight was it.....and if it was a 12 round fight then leonard would of stepped on the gas sooner.......there is no doubt that hearns was a great fighter.....top 5 welter in history but he just didn’t have that extra drop of magic you need to become the best ever....he lacked the one thing all real great fighters have and that’s intelligence......to often he went into toe to toe with fighters he should have boxed with.......hagler , Barkley for examples and it almost ended bad for him with kitchen , roldan etc

                    on his highest possible platform he got stopped 2 times by his rival kingpins and that’s why he is slightly below them in history

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                      but it wasn’t a 12 round fight was it.....and if it was a 12 round fight then leonard would of stepped on the gas sooner.......there is no doubt that hearns was a great fighter.....top 5 welter in history but he just didn’t have that extra drop of magic you need to become the best ever....he lacked the one thing all real great fighters have and that’s intelligence......to often he went into toe to toe with fighters he should have boxed with.......hagler , Barkley for examples and it almost ended bad for him with kitchen , roldan etc

                      on his highest possible platform he got stopped 2 times by his rival kingpins and that’s why he is slightly below them in history
                      You can’t possibly know if Leonard would have stepped in the gas sooner. I doubt he wins in 12, but neither of us will know for certain.

                      There is no such thing as the best ever in any weight class or P4P. Someone, no matter Joe knows they are, will always have a different opinion.

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