My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

[Heckler]

** When Joe came back, he was past his best days and entering a traditional age of decline for athletes. When Ali came back, he was still in his physical prime. You really need to study up kid.

Ali was still in his physical prime yes, no doubt. You forget to acknowledge the fact that Ali was completely inactive during 3 years of what probably would be his best years 25-28, and unlike Joe discontinued training. Joe went to war at the age of 29... so in reality he was entering 'a traditional age of decline for athletes' when joined the army. Regardless im pretty sure Joe would of ripped through all the competition during his army years. In regard to one of butterflys posts, Ali would always struggle with Frazier... the notion that he would definately defeat him is ridiculous, id favour him in a trilogy but it would always be a life and death struggle. Joe Louis at 6th? I really hope thats a joke.... throw his name in boxing rec, look at what comes up on your screen, and then justify not having him in your top 5 even... he really should be in the top 2.

[butterfly1964]

Ali was still in his physical prime yes, no doubt. You forget to acknowledge the fact that Ali was completely inactive during 3 years of what probably would be his best years 25-28, and unlike Joe discontinued training. Joe went to war at the age of 29... so in reality he was entering 'a traditional age of decline for athletes' when joined the army. Regardless im pretty sure Joe would of ripped through all the competition during his army years. In regard to one of butterflys posts, Ali would always struggle with Frazier... the notion that he would definately defeat him is ridiculous, id favour him in a trilogy but it would always be a life and death struggle. Joe Louis at 6th? I really hope thats a joke.... throw his name in boxing rec, look at what comes up on your screen, and then justify not having him in your top 5 even... he really should be in the top 2.

louis is too slow for ali and holmes, whom both would run circles around louis given the fact that louis always had trouble with movers(walcott, conn, nova, pastor, charles, etc.) foreman, liston, and tyson would overwhelm louis, cause of louis' substandard chin. plus foreman, liston and tyson all have very good if not great chins, and have stood up to big punchers before. they all would be too much for louis. so that's 5 people i named, ali, liston, foreman, tyson, and holmes, so that would leave louis at number 6.

[catskills23]

well then tyson's in human because Foreman's is over 2000 PSI and over tyson's

tyson's was like 2261 or something like that

2261 psi has to be wrong , i heard it tysons 580 psi and foreman was 610 or something like that , bruno punch pwer was measured an it was found to more than foreman and tysons .

[BKM-]

Kevin Rooney said on Tysontalk that Tyson's punching power was never measured.

They did it on Bruno, and the guy is one of the hardest hitters ever.

[catskills23]

Kevin Rooney said on Tysontalk that Tyson's punching power was never measured.

They did it on Bruno, and the guy is one of the hardest hitters ever.

Actually you mean steve loitt and what he meant was that tysons punching power was never measured when tyson was with the catskills team , it dosent mean that it wasent maesured after tyson left rooney , because how would rooney know if it has being measured since as he hasnt being in contact with tyson since 88 . i think in 89 when tyson was fighting bruno , before the fight, bruno, foremans, rudduck and tysons punch power was measured , bruno came first then foreman, ruddock and tyson came last , thats what i heard i dont know if its true or whether tysons punch power was ever measured?.

[BKM-]

Actually you mean steve loitt and what he meant was that tysons punching power was never measured when tyson was with the catskills team , it dosent mean that it wasent maesured after tyson left rooney , because how would rooney know if it has being measured since as he hasnt being in contact with tyson since 88 . i think in 89 when tyson was fighting bruno , before the fight, bruno, foremans, rudduck and tysons punch power was measured , bruno came first then foreman, ruddock and tyson came last , thats what i heard i dont know if its true or whether tysons punch power was ever measured?.

You need to get ahold of that story of all these guys letting their punching power get tested. Look it up.

[K-DOGG]

louis is too slow for ali and holmes, whom both would run circles around louis given the fact that louis always had trouble with movers(walcott, conn, nova, pastor, charles, etc.) foreman, liston, and tyson would overwhelm louis, cause of louis' substandard chin. plus foreman, liston and tyson all have very good if not great chins, and have stood up to big punchers before. they all would be too much for louis. so that's 5 people i named, ali, liston, foreman, tyson, and holmes, so that would leave louis at number 6.

There are ways to cut the ring off, ya know. Also, you're useing Walcott and Charles as examples....bad move. That's the same as me saying Ali couldn't handle boxers because Holmes and Berbick kicked his ass. Or, that he couldn't handle pressure fighters because of Spinks in I.

Never use a past his prime example to show a fighter's weaknesses...bad move.

[Da Iceman]

foreman and liston couldnt deal with louis's power. you underestimate prime louis's handspeed.

my list

1. Joe Louis Barrow
2. Cassius Clay
3. Rocky Marciano
4. Jack Johnson
5. Joe Frazier
6. George Foreman
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Larry Holmes
9. Lennox Lewis
10.Sonny Liston

[Primus]

Here's my list:

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Dempsey
4. Foreman
5. Johnson
6. Marciano
7. Holmes
8. Holyfield
9. Liston
10. Frazier

[Mike Tyson77]

1 Tyson
2 Johnson
3 Ali
4 Marciano
5 Louis
6 Dempsey
7 Fraizer
8 Foreman
9 Holyfield
10 Holmes