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    #161
    Originally posted by butterfly1964
    holmes was 37 years old, and not as fast, and didn't get enough training time. a prime holmes would have confused, frustrated, then ko'd tyson in 10 or 12 rounds.

    Holmes didn't have the power to KO Tyson. In their fight, Holmes landed plenty of clean punches. But Tyson kept moving in landing his hooks. Holmes fell like a tree.

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      #162
      Originally posted by BSD
      Holmes didn't have the power to KO Tyson. In their fight, Holmes landed plenty of clean punches. But Tyson kept moving in landing his hooks. Holmes fell like a tree.
      so he didn't have the power to ko tyson, if holyfield could?!

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        #163
        Originally posted by butterfly1964
        so he didn't have the power to ko tyson, if holyfield could?!

        A washed up, unmotivated, inconsistent fighter that would resort to ear biting is not the fighter that Holmes met in 1988. But whether you think Tyson was washed up when he fought Holyfield or not, Holyfield did have a better style and strategy for beating him.

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          #164
          Why is Tyson being given full credit for knocking out a far past his prime Larry Holmes?

          I guess then McBride gets his credit for making the ferocious Mike Tyson quit on his stool...

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            #165
            Originally posted by BSD
            A washed up, unmotivated, inconsistent fighter that would resort to ear biting is not the fighter that Holmes met in 1988. But whether you think Tyson was washed up when he fought Holyfield or not, Holyfield did have a better style and strategy for beating him.
            holyfield had a better style? if holmes had ali's style then how would there be a better style than that? holmes would not be hit by tyson that much in his prime, plus holmes had a strong chin. holmes would carry it to the later rounds and ko tyson, after hitting his face countless times.

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              #166
              Originally posted by butterfly1964
              holyfield had a better style? if holmes had ali's style then how would there be a better style than that? holmes would not be hit by tyson that much in his prime, plus holmes had a strong chin. holmes would carry it to the later rounds and ko tyson, after hitting his face countless times.

              There's no invincible style. In fact, Ali with his stick and move style had the most trouble with a bobbing and hooking Frazier. Tyson could throw more powerful hooks with either hand. Holmes didn't really stand a chance.

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                #167
                Originally posted by BSD
                There's no invincible style. In fact, Ali with his stick and move style had the most trouble with a bobbing and hooking Frazier. Tyson could throw more powerful hooks with either hand. Holmes didn't really stand a chance.
                yeah, but douglass, holyfield, lewis, williams, and bride does huh? lol!

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                  #168
                  Tyson's style was different than Frazier's. I've said this a million times, I guess I'll say it more. It wasn't Frazier's bob and weave that troubled Ali, it was his relentless agression and attack. Tyson didn't come straight at people like Frazier did. And even if the bob and weave troubled Ali, he did put Joe in the hospital for a few months. If Ali did that damage to Tyson, Tyson wouldn't have the heart to finish the fight. Have you seen how bad Ali batters Joe in the 9th round of FOTC? It's surprising Joe came out after that round (yet it's surprising Ali came out from the 11th round).

                  So no, it doesn't come close. Once Tyson realized that Ali wasn't terrified of him, and started to trade blows with Tyson, Tyson would crumble. And anyway, Ali would have ****ed with Tyson's head before the fight, so Tyson wouldn't be able to think straight anyway.

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                    #169
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                    Tyson's style was different than Frazier's. I've said this a million times, I guess I'll say it more. It wasn't Frazier's bob and weave that troubled Ali, it was his relentless agression and attack. Tyson didn't come straight at people like Frazier did. And even if the bob and weave troubled Ali, he did put Joe in the hospital for a few months. If Ali did that damage to Tyson, Tyson wouldn't have the heart to finish the fight. Have you seen how bad Ali batters Joe in the 9th round of FOTC? It's surprising Joe came out after that round (yet it's surprising Ali came out from the 11th round).

                    So no, it doesn't come close. Once Tyson realized that Ali wasn't terrified of him, and started to trade blows with Tyson, Tyson would crumble. And anyway, Ali would have ****ed with Tyson's head before the fight, so Tyson wouldn't be able to think straight anyway.
                    I completely agree with you.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
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                      I completely agree with you.
                      yeah, me too.

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