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    #11
    Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
    Tokyo Douglas
    It was very decent,imo he won the fight with the basic "one two".

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      #12
      Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

      The Klit's trainer was a very experienced pro trainer as I told you before.
      Here are some of those he trained.
      Wlad won the world title under Sdunek and made 5 successful defences with him .

      ​Only 11 of Wlad's 64 wins went to points,so how much of a factor was his jab?

      In his 69 fights how many times do you think Wlad fought in the East? Try 4.

      As an amateur Wlad fought in Rome 4 times,Atlanta 4 times,Denmark 4 times.
      I've shown him this before ,but he refuses to acknowledge it. You can lead a horse to water......

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        #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        I've shown him this before ,but he refuses to acknowledge it. You can lead a horse to water......
        You can lead a troll to water,but you can't make him think.
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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          I've shown him this before ,but he refuses to acknowledge it. You can lead a horse to water......
          - - Fritz started pro boxing as an long time Olympic level amateur trainer. The Ks some of his earliest works, and by the end as I have shown by his final record, he's a HOF trainer miscast as a Commie Russian like both the Ks started.

          Yer welcome as always...

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            #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - Fritz started pro boxing as an long time Olympic level amateur trainer. The Ks some of his earliest works, and by the end as I have shown by his final record, he's a HOF trainer miscast as a Commie Russian like both the Ks started.

            Yer welcome as always...
            His pro resume directly contradicts your claim ,and not for the first time.

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              #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post


              - - Fritz started pro boxing as an long time Olympic level amateur trainer. The Ks some of his earliest works, and by the end as I have shown by his final record, he's a HOF trainer miscast as a Commie Russian like both the Ks started.

              Yer welcome as always...
              He is and has been a professional trainer. Your opinion holds no weight against the facts. John Scully trained amatuers for a long time. Teddy Atlas, Cus D'Amato, Freddy Roach. Wrte they all amatuer trainers when they brought their first champions to the forefront, or were they paid professionals? And in dint recall reading or seeing anyone cast Sdunek as a "Commie Russian".Sdunek was German. And while the Klits may be some of the most notable fighters he trained id chalk that up the fall of the Berlin Wall not happening until almost 1990. Who was Fitz going to train? He lived in an eastern block country that wasn't allowed professional boxers, nor most of the other eastern block countries i know of until the 90's. Either way Sdunek had a wealth of boxing experience and knowledge and was paid to share it. Ergo a professional trainer.

              Yer welcome.
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                #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - threw Alimostly ghost air jabs in his prime year while moving around. He never dominated with a single hand like Wlad did with his left hand.
                Lies..

                Last edited by joseph5620; 01-14-2025, 10:19 PM.

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                  #18
                  Ali, Liston, Louis.

                  Ali has them vastly *****ed for speed.

                  I liked how Liston and Louis jabbed to the body more.

                  Can’t go wrong with either of them but I think H2H Ali easily out jabs both (Liston we already know)

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                    #19
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                      #20
                      Gonna throw Pinklon Thomas into the discussion. Not saying it was the best ever but very effective.

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