Prime Liston rate him HTH

[Biledriver]

To be fair I did not day he was beaten 25 times a day, I said he was one of 25 kids, but yes compromise is good.

I have no idea how to post a video link on here but Rainy Days Boxing YouTube documentary on Liston is absolutely superb.

I will check it out.

[QueensburyRules]

You know, you guys really could meet in the middle on this... It is documented to an extent (realistically this "extent" would be sans a birthdate for Liston) that Liston's father was abusive and mistreated him. According to Liston he left home for St Louis to live with an aunt because of the father and he could not get food. Somewhere between the "being beaten 25 times a day," and being used "as a mule," lie a truth that Liston was abused... The Hyperbole is just not a legitimate means to convey this, which should also be acknowledged. But in either case: Must we throw the baby out with the bathwater?

- - Sonny was something of a momma's boy, hence when she moved to St Louis he left everything to be with her. She was the Bible reader and keeper of family history. Every history of him is more than a loving large farm family but rather a father raised hard, less better than a valued farm animal and now raising his family hard with few loving embraces if any.

Any whippings administered were with The Whip.

[Bronson66]

- - Sonny was something of a momma's boy, hence when she moved to St Louis he left everything to be with her. She was the Bible reader and keeper of family history. Every history of him is more than a loving large farm family but rather a father raised hard, less better than a valued farm animal and now raising his family hard with few loving embraces if any.

Any whippings administered were with The Whip.

"left everything?" What was he leaving? lol