Another list.......Cruiserweight

[JAB5239]

Interesting list here. Curious what everyone thinks and what their own list would look like.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Usyk #1. The rest might as well be on Mars.

Field fought at the beginning against a field of failed smallish heavies, 190lbs created for the WBC to have another sanctioning fee division just like they created the Bridgette Wt division. He wouldn't be competitive today. His post Cruiser record at Hvy is 26-10-2.

I could go on, but I don't go around beat blood and flesh punch dummies.

[JAB5239]

- - Usyk #1. The rest might as well be on Mars.

Field fought at the beginning against a field of failed smallish heavies, 190lbs created for the WBC to have another sanctioning fee division just like they created the Bridgette Wt division. He wouldn't be competitive today. His post Cruiser record at Hvy is 26-10-2.

I could go on, but I don't go around beat blood and flesh punch dummies.

This is a Cruiserweight thread, not a Holyfield post Cruiserweight thread. And Holy still the top dog of the cruiser division in my opinion. Usyk has an argument for first, but I think Evander the more skilled of the two, in my opinion.

[billeau2]

Interesting list here. Curious what everyone thinks and what their own list would look like.

Kudos for him sticking to the facts about Cruisers... I know I don't and often lump them with light heavies. He has fighters listed that are not generally known, but also guys like Holly and Toney.

My own feeling? Cruisers do not exist in a vacuum... Meaning their performance in the division matters less, than...oh lets say a welterweight for example... Ultimately they have to fly away and fight bigger opponents. I mean they could fight down as well I s'pose, technically speaking!

So I will look at guys like like the Btard maker and of course Usyk, Toney etc as having accomplished a lot. I have to look at who was in the division, how long, and not confuse the light heavies to make some of my own contributions.

[billeau2]

- - Usyk #1. The rest might as well be on Mars.

Field fought at the beginning against a field of failed smallish heavies, 190lbs created for the WBC to have another sanctioning fee division just like they created the Bridgette Wt division. He wouldn't be competitive today. His post Cruiser record at Hvy is 26-10-2.

I could go on, but I don't go around beat blood and flesh punch dummies.

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The Btard maker fought some of the very best you drunk twit. Who did Usyk beat in the division? since you say it is merely a ruse by alphabet soup? (I would actually agree with that)...but then want to rocket Usyk to the top? based on what? his 12, err 5 years of experience? His amatuer record? Either way it does not make a connection to Usyk's greatness via the division.

Holyfield at prime would be a great match for Usyk and probably wins...

[The D3vil]

Cruiserweight's not a great division, so I guess I'll say their list isn't that bad.

After Holyfield, Usyk, and Haye, it's kind of a meh division

[Kid Cauliflower]

From Patterson on back most of the heavyweight champions and ye top contenders were cruiser weights. How would the listed cruiser weights do against yesteryear's small heavyweights? Would they just be fodder??

[JAB5239]

From Patterson on back most of the heavyweight champions and ye top contenders were cruiser weights. How would the listed cruiser weights do against yesteryear's small heavyweights? Would they just be fodder??

I think they do pretty well. Some wins, some losses. I expect Holy, Usyk, Haye and Toney to excel. Jirov is one of my favorite fighters, but his style wasn't long for any era, but he would be in the mix for however long that would be.

[Willow The Wisp]

By the modern standard of 200 lbs. Cutoff? Here's a quick list...

1. Joe Louis
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Sam Langford
4. Gene Tunney
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Joe Jeanette
8. Oleksandr Usyk
9. Peter Jackson
10.Max Schmeling
11.Evander Holyfield
12.Frank Moran
13.Michael Spinks
14.James J. Corbett
15.Billy Miske
16.Sam McVey
17.Sailor Tom Sharkey
18.Jimmy Bivins
19.Joe Choynski
20.Eddie Machen
21.Jack Dillon
22.Peter Maher
23.Jersey Joe Walcott
24.Jerry Quarry
25.Bob Pastor
26.Floyd Patterson
27.Bill Brennan
28.Tommy Burns
29.Fireman Jim Flynn
30.Battling Levinsky
31.Michael Moorer
32.Marvin Hart
33.Ingemar Johansson
34.David Haye
35.Nathan Mann
35.Frank Childs
37.Tami Mauriello
38.Jack Bonner
39.Jimmy Adamick
40.Chris Byrd

[QueensburyRules]

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The Btard maker fought some of the very best you drunk twit. Who did Usyk beat in the division? since you say it is merely a ruse by alphabet soup? (I would actually agree with that)...but then want to rocket Usyk to the top? based on what? his 12, err 5 years of experience? His amatuer record? Either way it does not make a connection to Usyk's greatness via the division.

Holyfield at prime would be a great match for Usyk and probably wins...

- - Like blubbered Qawi whom Mike Spinks chased from the LH division who put Field in ICU near death...yeah...looks like Ginsberg and Keroack have irrevocably taken over U for good...