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    I can say that before moving up in weight Holyfield was already one of the hardest looking boxers ever. He added bulk, much of it muscle.

    Now looking back his early body does not seem so especially hard. That could suggest many modern boxers are juiced. We got used to the look. I don't think there is enough evidence to dismiss Holy as a cheating scumbag, but enough to be suspicious.
    Last edited by Kid Cauliflower; 07-01-2024, 08:07 PM.
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      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      Right but my question is, how did they know Evander Holyfield answered the phone?

      Is there any actual evidence of that being in any way true?

      How do we even know someone wasn't impersonating Holyfield by using his birth date? Or trying to set him up? We don't. All we have on this is hearsay, nothing of any actual substance to prove it.

      I'm not saying that's what happened, it likely isn't but none of it actually proves anything in regards to actual drug use.

      At best it could circumstantially point to him (Evan Fields) perhaps buying the drugs, we still don't know if he used them or not.
      - - Vander never the brightest a victim of his era circumstances that also saw him hang on too long like Ali.

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        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        He did protest all of it, and vehemently deny it.

        How could they possibly know it was Holyfield who answered the phone? Can they see through the phone? Or are they just psychic?
        SI doesn't print that statement if they can't prove it. SI is not Alex Jones or Fox News. No one has sued them.

        If Holyfield doesn't know the shot when picking up the phone, and hears that it is SI, he doesn't hesitate to confirm to SI he is Evander Holyfield.

        I feel confident it would be easy for the reporter to set him up. I'll get with SI!

        Yes he did protest and denied, I stated that. So did OJ, Trump, and Bundy.

        I also said he didn't dispute the phone call. He only disputed the PEDs use.
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          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

          SI doesn't print that statement if they can't prove it. SI is not Alex Jones or Fox News. No one has sued them.

          If Holyfield doesn't know the shot when picking up the phone, and hears that it is SI, he doesn't hesitate to confirm to SI he is Evander Holyfield.

          I feel confident it would be easy for the reporter to set him up. I'll get with SI!

          Yes he did protest and denied, I stated that. So did OJ, *****, and Bundy.

          I also said he didn't dispute the phone call. He only disputed the PEDs use.
          Gotta agree with this.
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            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

            SI doesn't print that statement if they can't prove it. SI is not Alex Jones or Fox News. No one has sued them.

            If Holyfield doesn't know the shot when picking up the phone, and hears that it is SI, he doesn't hesitate to confirm to SI he is Evander Holyfield.

            I feel confident it would be easy for the reporter to set him up. I'll get with SI!

            Yes he did protest and denied, I stated that. So did OJ, *****, and Bundy.

            I also said he didn't dispute the phone call. He only disputed the PEDs use.
            He protested all of it.

            Just because someone says they are Evander Holyfield, doesn’t mean they are. And we don’t even know if that happened, you’ve just made that up.

            The fact of the matter is THEY HAVE NO IDEA if it was Evander Holyfield on the phone.

            Also, reporters lie. Someone would argue they’re kind of known for it.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 07-02-2024, 09:24 AM.

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              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Gotta agree with this.
              I don’t disagree that Holyfield likely used PEDs. It point to it but the fact is we don’t know and many components of that “report” are ambiguous at best.

              Mike Tyson was very likely on PEDs aswell is the point, as was that entire era I would say.

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                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                He protested all of it.

                Just because someone says they are Evander Holyfield, doesn’t mean they are. And we don’t even know if that happened, you’ve just made that up.

                The fact of the matter is THEY HAVE NO IDEA if it was Evander Holyfield on the phone.

                Also, reporters lie. Someone would argue they’re kind of known for it.
                Show me where he denied the phone call occurred.

                They have a very good idea, that's why they printed it and didn't get sued.

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                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                  Show me where he denied the phone call occurred.

                  They have a very good idea, that's why they printed it and didn't get sued.
                  Doesn’t mean or prove anything that they didn’t get sued. He denied any involvement or everything to do with article and steroid use.

                  They said he answered the phone. Reality is they have no idea if that was him on the phone.

                  And, despite the suspect behaviour pointing to it, we have no idea if he took anything.

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