Class of 2020,so what say BSForum experts…yay or nay?
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2020? I am confused.
If Moorer isn't already in, he eventually will be.
Or, did I miss this completely and there actually is a guy named "Moored"?
Anyway: All respectable HW Champions are in the HOF and Moorer victories over Holyfield and even the 10 rounds he won, before he lost to Foreman, are respectful enough.
Plus the rest of his resume at lower weights and his climb into the HW division are all, again, respectable wins.
Maybe not and ATG to some but a HW champion only needs be a respected HW Champion and he will eventually be inducted.Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 02-25-2024, 06:09 PM.
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In my opinion Moorer would have been an ATG if he stayed at Light Heavy.
He did well enough though with the Heavyweights.
Simply more money with the Heavys.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View PostClass of 2020,so what say BSForum experts…yay or nay?
Since Moorer has already been voted in... I assume you're asking, if we think this is deserved or not?
Not exactly an ATG, and maybe a borderline case when it comes to HOF status - but I think his induction can be defended.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post2020? I am confused.
If Moorer isn't already in, he eventually will be.
Or, did I miss this completely and there actually is a guy named "Moored"?
Anyway: All respectable HW Champions are in the HOF and Moorer victories over Holyfield and even the 10 rounds he won, before he lost to Foreman, are respectful enough.
Plus the rest of his resume at lower weights and his climb into the HW division are all, again, respectable wins.
Maybe not and ATG to some but a HW champion only needs be a respected HW Champion and he will eventually be inducted.
The retard who started the thread is about 3 months late since they announced it.
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Ballots were handed out the first of October and the class of 2024 was announced following the voting, as Moorer, Ricky Hatton, Ivan Calderon, Diego Corrales, and Luis Firpo were elected for male fighters.
Moorer is in. And I agree with the selection.
2nd guy to come up from a 175 lb title to win THE Heavyweight title. First Southpaw to win it. He also won a cluster of alphabet titles.
He whooped Evander Holyfield back when that meant something, an he was also the foil for the epic recapture of the title for Big George Foreman.
He has strong history points associated with his campaign that nudge him in.
Someone mentioned Quarry. He should be in too.
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Originally posted by Bundana View Post
Since Moorer has already been voted in... I assume you're asking, if we think this is deserved or not?
Not exactly an ATG, and maybe a borderline case when it comes to HOF status - but I think his induction can be defended.
Glad to see him in, but the interview was horrendous. He was always known for a very sharp mind, but appears to be very much mentally impaired now as well as physically impaired..
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Good for him, and anybody who gets in.
Personally I would've gone for somebody else, I don't think he deserved the W vs Holyfield and he was dominated in the rematch. That one win is the only reason he can be considered. He was a champ at 175 but it was the WBO, which nobody cared about in 1989. While Foreman is an ATG and him winning back the title was a beautiful moment...to put it into context it came when Foreman lost to Morrison and then was inactive for 18 months. Moorer cherry-picked, it went wrong, but because it was such powerful, great achievement for Foreman, it's almost like people give Moorer credit just for being involved.
Not trying to **** on the guy. Not saying he sucks. But I see him on the level of somebody like Bruno, Morrison, and the other 90s HWs who were talented, skilled but also clearly flawed. Like Rahman, McCall, Douglas he won the belt from a prime ATG HW but lost it soon after and had more bad losses than great wins.
But all that said, boxers dedicate their lives to the sport, but they don't get much once they're retired, the media and fans stop paying attention quick. So whoever gets in I'm happy for them to have another moment in the spotlight.Willow The Wisp likes this.
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Originally posted by Clegg View PostGood for him, and anybody who gets in.
Personally I would've gone for somebody else, I don't think he deserved the W vs Holyfield and he was dominated in the rematch. That one win is the only reason he can be considered. He was a champ at 175 but it was the WBO, which nobody cared about in 1989. While Foreman is an ATG and him winning back the title was a beautiful moment...to put it into context it came when Foreman lost to Morrison and then was inactive for 18 months. Moorer cherry-picked, it went wrong, but because it was such powerful, great achievement for Foreman, it's almost like people give Moorer credit just for being involved.
Not trying to **** on the guy. Not saying he sucks. But I see him on the level of somebody like Bruno, Morrison, and the other 90s HWs who were talented, skilled but also clearly flawed. Like Rahman, McCall, Douglas he won the belt from a prime ATG HW but lost it soon after and had more bad losses than great wins.
But all that said, boxers dedicate their lives to the sport, but they don't get much once they're retired, the media and fans stop paying attention quick. So whoever gets in I'm happy for them to have another moment in the spotlight.
Foreman came right after Holyfield and a champion usually takes an easy defense before stepping up to his next big challenge.
In Moorer case there really wasn't a 'big fight' challenge avaiable at that moment, and Foreman, being Gerorge was not only an 'easy defense' but would be an extraordinary payday as well.
So I think, within the tradition of prize fighting I wouldn't call the Foreman fight a 'cherry pick.'
Just a mistake.
I think Nino Benvenuti made the same mistake with Monzon. He was coming off a 'come from behind win' over Luis Rodriguez and thought he was taking on an easy defense with #10 Monzon next.
It was a homecoming, in Rome, with no American live television coverage. TV didn't think the defense worthy of coverage.
Had he blown out Monzon as expected would we call the fight a 'cherry pick' today? Probably!
But it is really part of the tradition.Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 02-29-2024, 02:26 PM.mrbig1 Willow The Wisp like this.
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