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    #21
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    When I on the Classic Forum stated that over 20 rounds Johnson would have beaten Willard,as the referee confirmed.You replied but Willard would have started faster if he knew it was a only a 20rds fight!
    Now you have totally reversed your previous statement ,by denying the possibility that Louis knowing he had only 12 rds to win in would not
    have put more urgency into his attack!

    Lets look at other fights in which your idol Jim Jeffries was involved. According to your "revised opinion"lol
    Jim Corbett would have won the decision over Jeffries in their first fight if it had been over 20rds, and Sharkey would probably have gotten the decision over Jeffries in their 2nd fight if it had been reduced to 20rds as well!

    Unlike Jeffries, Louis fought modern sized heavyweights and ko'd them

    You cannot have your cake and eat it too ! Only Bob Dylan can do that! LOL
    You are an idiot! The extra 3 rounds allowed for Louis to catch Conn. Louis put plenty of urgency in his fight with the 168 pound Conn for the first 12 round did he?

    45 rounds is a big difference from 20 rounds.

    Again why would I care about ESB? I seldom read or post there.

    You are a moron Tony Mcvey, or do you prefer Anthony, Totno62, or Ivich ... the other banned names.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

      You are an idiot! The extra 3 rounds allowed for Louis to catch Conn. Louis put plenty of urgency in his fight with the 168 pound Conn for the first 12 round did he?

      45 rounds is a big difference from 20 rounds.

      Again why would I care about ESB? I seldom read or post there.

      You are a moron Tony Mcvey, or do you prefer Anthony, Totno62, or Ivich ... the other banned names.
      No answering of my question,Im not dissapointed,I didnt expect there would be!

      You dont post there at all !lol Banned as Dr Z ,and now banned for life as Mendoza the serial liar!.

      Never posted on ESB as Ivich or Anthony. Banned for 6 days as Tonto Not banned now but YOU ARE! AND FOR GOOD! LOL



      N B Galento lost 26 times ,but he had 112 fights!
      Last edited by Ivich; 06-23-2023, 05:49 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

        Yes but is true that he lost many rounds to a men who weighed in at super middle weight and cruiser weights. At least they would have been that today. A good modern day skilled heavyweight is about 6'5" + , 240+ pounds, with an 80" reach. Small men do not match up. I am not talking about bum of the most guys.

        Today's big men are like three weight classes above there Joe Louis opponents that bettered him or out scored points him on the cards until his power came late and his chiny opponents were knocked out. Today the big men aren't just big, they are skiiled.

        That is the history or it.

        they are 240 because they are fat or body builders. galento was 240 as well.

        I’m not sold that they would be super middleweights today. For 1 they lie about weights a lot and 2 they trained differently. Look at Joe Louis stand beside Jerry Quarry (who would have been a cruiser) Louis dwarfs him.

        some of the big heavies are good like Lennox, but some are trash like Joshua. Joshua has already lost to smaller men so it pretty much proves the point I am making. We also saw cunningham drop Fury badly.

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          #24
          Originally posted by them_apples View Post


          they are 240 because they are fat or body builders. galento was 240 as well.

          Im not sold that they would be super middleweights today. For 1 they lie about weights a lot and 2 they trained differently. Look at Joe Louis stand beside Jerry Quarry (who would have been a cruiser) Louis dwarfs him.

          some of the big heavies are good like Lennox, but some are trash like Joshua. Joshua has already lost to smaller men so it pretty much proves the point I am making. We also saw cunningham drop Fury badly.
          Galento was short ( 5'9" ) heavyweight wit a t-rex like reach of 72 ". He was fat too. Most modern day super heavyweights are more skilled than Galento Joshua isn't the best big man around, but he can box and hit. He's far better than Glaento. Look, short the fat man lost 26 times and was knocked out six times.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

            Galento was short ( 5'9" ) heavyweight wit a t-rex like reach of 72 ". He was fat too. Most modern day super heavyweights are more skilled than Galento Joshua isn't the best big man around, but he can box and hit. He's far better than Glaento. Look, short the fat man lost 26 times and was knocked out six times.

            The thing is, people like Galento don’t exist anymore. This is why you don’t give him a fighting chance. But Galento was an oldschool Italian gang****er, if you were fat back then it wasn’t cause of **** they put in the food, it was because he ate good(a lot) all the time and was a strong fighter. Is he a world beater? No he’s not. I’d give him a shot at catching Joshua. Joshua would look funny trying to hit galento, he’s just a big target. The man was hard as nails though , hed have absolutely no fear of Joshua. If someone looked like Galento today, they wouldn’t be close to the same type of person.

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              #26
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post

              The thing is, people like Galento dont exist anymore. This is why you dont give him a fighting chance. But Galento was an oldschool Italian gang****er, if you were fat back then it wasnt cause of **** they put in the food, it was because he ate good(a lot) all the time and was a strong fighter. Is he a world beater? No hes not. Id give him a shot at catching Joshua. Joshua would look funny trying to hit galento, hes just a big target. The man was hard as nails though , hed have absolutely no fear of Joshua. If someone looked like Galento today, they wouldnt be close to the same type of person.
              You are correct. There are not anymore short and fat 5'9" 240 pound heavyweights like Galento anymore with the reach of a middle weight. Since James Toney has retired! In fact you would be very hard pressed to find ANY heavyweight today 5'9" or shorter wit h a 72 " reach. Just trust me of check for yourself. The game has changed at heavyweight. Big time, pun intended!

              But on skills Galento is no Joshua who is a decent skilled heavyweight today. Check their records and who they lost to. Galento can hit though and he is colorful! I guess from a fan's perspective you can like him better than Joshua.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                You are correct. There are not anymore short and fat 5'9" 240 pound heavyweights like Galento anymore with the reach of a middle weight. Since James Toney has retired! In fact you would be very hard pressed to find ANY heavyweight today 5'9" or shorter wit h a 72 " reach. Just trust me of check for yourself. The game has changed at heavyweight. Big time, pun intended!

                But on skills Galento is no Joshua who is a decent skilled heavyweight today. Check their records and who they lost to. Galento can hit though and he is colorful! I guess from a fan's perspective you can like him better than Joshua.
                Well you pretended to miss my point so…

                funny you mention James Toney. Well for 1 he started his career at 160. So his version of 240 is pure blubber. Galento is actually a heavyweight. Even at 240 hes not has fat as you think, he’s “tubby”. James was actually obese and talked like he was as well.

                second, Toney was a pretty good heavyweight by contemporary standards, and considering he was obese and only sparred for training.

                the heavyweight division has changed, but it hasnt gotten better.
                Last edited by them_apples; 06-24-2023, 08:59 AM.
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                  #28
                  Louis could be hit. That’s for sure. And Galento had one helluva chin. Plus Galento had a powerful, sneaky left hook that came from way down below. Never hook with a hooker. But in the end, Joe’s hand speed and devastating punching power took over the fight. It started with a right hand and then Tony’s face started to open up. A chopping left, almost too quick to see while Galento was rushing in, opens up the right side of his face near the corner of his mouth. Multiple combinations then a series of vicious left and rights in rapid succession along the ropes. You can see Galento’s head snap back. Near the end, Tony is backing up as he ducks one right hand but is too slow and staggered when a right left combo finishes the fight and he falls down to his right crawling to his corner. Honestly, I’m amazed at the amount of punishment Galento took until he finally succumbed to Joe’s onslaught.

                  Great footage! Did you notice no ten count when a boxer went down and the immediately resumed the fight when the boxer got up? Galento had a reputation as a dirty fighter and you could clearly see him holding and hitting and head butting every chance he could. Before the fourth round, you could have viewed the fight as even with each fighter getting knocked down with Louis being rocked at least two other times in earlier rounds. But Louis knew how to finish a fight. What I really appreciated with this restored footage is the accuracy, speed and power of Joe’s combinations plus his awesome power. Really enjoyable to watch.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                    You are correct. There are not anymore short and fat 5'9" 240 pound heavyweights like Galento anymore with the reach of a middle weight. Since James Toney has retired! In fact you would be very hard pressed to find ANY heavyweight today 5'9" or shorter wit h a 72 " reach. Just trust me of check for yourself. The game has changed at heavyweight. Big time, pun intended!

                    But on skills Galento is no Joshua who is a decent skilled heavyweight today. Check their records and who they lost to. Galento can hit though and he is colorful! I guess from a fan's perspective you can like him better than Joshua.
                    Joshua has to be one of the most overrated heavyweights in the history of boxing. Skill? He’s a powder puff that can’t take a punch. Galento would have knocked him out. Unless, of course, you believe Joshua is a heavier puncher and better combo thrower than Joe Louis. Right.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Rockenator View Post
                      Joshua has to be one of the most overrated heavyweights in the history of boxing. Skill? He’s a powder puff that can’t take a punch. Galento would have knocked him out. Unless, of course, you believe Joshua is a heavier puncher and better combo thrower than Joe Louis. Right.
                      With 12 ounce gloves and facing opponents under 200 pounds, No I do not think Joshua did not hit harder than Louis did with 6-8 ounce gloves. No, I think Louis threw better combinations. Am I clear?

                      Having said that, who did Joe Louis really beat? Names, weights and condition of his opponents please.

                      Joshua rates as a top 5 modern day super heavyweight who can fight. Just because Usyk can out box him and Ruiz hit hard enough to knock him out ... okay so what! Louis was KO'd 2 times by sub 200 pound men and out scored by others on the score cards ( which in some cases were biased toward Louis ). That is worse if we compare and contrast

                      IMO Joshua knocks Galento out without being floored. His range alone makes the fight as mismatch. Get real. Galento lost 26 times, and was KO's 6 times in what ring ****zine calls the worst era of heavyweight boxing.
                      Last edited by Dr. Z; 06-29-2023, 07:40 AM.

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