New book on Marciano gives interesting details

[them_apples]

I'm a huge Rocky fan. But have you noticed the double standards around here? There are certain posters who will attack certain fighters because they perceive them as being thuggish. Rocky for all his greatness was a thug. Even later I'm life before he passed away he would refuse to pick up any bill he didn't absolutely have to.

Have you read this book yet?

Yeah major double standards when it comes to Rocky. Mostly because of his appearance and style, his best qualities aren’t out in the open.

[Willie Pep 229]

Marciano behaved in this manner long after he had parted from Weill.Rocky was so notorious for never picking up the tab he was known as,"America's Guest".
Willie Pep a close friend said he was so embarrassed how Rocky accepted everything without ever offering to reciprocate,he once paid for a round of drinks at a dinner they were attending , Rocky asked to speak with Willie privately and they went outside the restaurant.Pep stated Rocky was enraged that he had embarrassed him,saying,"Im not paying for anything Willie and neither are you,so dont try and make me look bad".The quote from Pep can be found in Skehan's bio of Rocky,one of the three I own.

Yes I had heard the Willie Pep story before.

According to William Nack of Sport's Illustrsted (I believe) there was no parting of the way with Al Wiell. Weill had Marciano signed to a lifetime contract where they split any money generated from Rocky's boxing career 50-50 (including post boxing speaking engagements.)

Much like the lifetime contract Tommy Dorsey had Frank Sinatra bound to.

It's in Nack's article where Rocky, at a speaking engagement, turned down a $2000 check asking for $500 in cash.

Nack also claims that Rocky traveled with a suitcase full of *****s. So who knows.

[them_apples]

I'm a huge Rocky fan. But have you noticed the double standards around here? There are certain posters who will attack certain fighters because they perceive them as being thuggish. Rocky for all his greatness was a thug. Even later I'm life before he passed away he would refuse to pick up any bill he didn't absolutely have to.

Have you read this book yet?

The book frequently mentions how dirty he fought and the roughhouse tactics he used. I guess there is no debate about that. It also makes some interesting points on his style. He would often fake getting hurt to get an opponent to open up. I am about halfway through the book and Ive never read about a boxer knocking this many men completely unconscious to the point where they are snoring. Even as a youth of 160 lbs, he was said to be knocking guys out cold.