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    #21
    There are about 3 or 4 fights at heavyweight I want to see. The rest can jump off a bridge. My God, people are still touting Joyce around here. Hype has a powerful effect on them.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
      There are about 3 or 4 fights at heavyweight I want to see. The rest can jump off a bridge. My God, people are still touting Joyce around here. Hype has a powerful effect on them.
      I think Joyce, if his face holds up, is still pretty dangerous

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        #23
        Lots in the pot boiling at heavyweight.
        Wilder vs Joshua is a nice fight!

        Both of them need this fight for their individual legacies. I think that we are in a moment of four Hall of Fame level heavyweights campaigning at or near their own prime.
        This fight is for alot, historically.

        The beauty of the fight game is its cultural presence, and how meticulously it's long history has been chronicled.
        It is what goes in those books that is at stake. Eatin' the developments up on this. Good times.
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          #24
          I wonder how many of the fighters below will get a chance against Fury, Wilder, Usyk and Joshua before the era those 4 represent is over?

          World Champion -
          Tyson Fury, England
          1. Deontay Wilder, United States
          2. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
          3. Zhilei Zhang, China
          4. Anthony Joshua, England
          5. Andy Ruiz Jr, United States
          6. Joe Joyce, England
          7. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
          8. Daniel Dubois, England
          9. Filip Hrgovic, Croatia
          10.Dillian Whyte, England
          11.Derrick Chisora, England
          12.Martin Bakole, Congo
          13.Arslanbek Makhmudov, Russia
          14.Frank Sanchez, Cuba
          15.Joseph Parker, New Zealand
          16.Carlos Takam, Cameroon
          16. Michael Hunter, United States (tie)
          17.Kubrat Pulev, Bulgaria
          18.Otto Wallin, Sweden
          19.Robert Helenius, Norway
          20.Murat Gassiev, Armenia
          21.Zhan Kossobutskiy, Kazakhstan
          22.Agit Kabayel, Turkey
          23.Simon Kean, Quebec
          24.Efe Ajagba, Nigeria
          25.Tony Yoka, France
          26.Charles Martin, United States
          27.Jared Anderson, United States
          28.Adam Kowanacki, Poland
          29.Fabio Wardly, England
          30.Jermaine Franklin, United States
          31.Raphael Akpejiori, Nigeria
          32.Lenier Pero, Cuba
          33.Evgeny Romanov, Russia
          34.Stephen Shaw, United States
          35.Demsey McKean, Australia
          36.Bakhodir Jalolov, Uzbekistan
          37.Ivan Dychko, Kazakhstan
          38.Alexis Barrriere, Quebec
          39.Jarrell Miller, United States
          40.Chris Arreola, United States
          41.Ali Erin Denirezen, Turkey
          42.Lucas Browne, Australia
          43.Hughie Fury, England
          44.Trevor Bryan, United States
          45.Lukasz Rozanski, Poland
          46.Kevin Lerena, South Africa
          47.Arslan Yallyev, Russia
          48.Mike Balogun, United States
          49.Justis Huni, Australia
          50.Jose Larduet, Cuba​

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            #25
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
            Lots in the pot boiling at heavyweight.
            Wilder vs Joshua is a nice fight!

            Both of them need this fight for their individual legacies. I think that we are in a moment of four Hall of Fame level heavyweights campaigning at or near their own prime.
            This fight is for alot, historically.

            The beauty of the fight game is its cultural presence, and how meticulously it's long history has been chronicled.
            It is what goes in those books that is at stake. Eatin' the developments up on this. Good times.
            - - AJ already sent Deyonce and Blubber packing with nary a punch needed.

            Nobody cares about delusional Flubber and Deyonce anymore save fan boys.

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              #26
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - AJ already sent Deyonce and Blubber packing with nary a punch needed.

              Nobody cares about delusional Flubber and Deyonce anymore save fan boys.
              Well, the race is still underway for decade dominance, as boxing history carries on; but Fury's got to lose a couple in order for the rest of the best to ever catch him.
              Versus today's top 50:
              Fury. 6-0-1
              Wilder. 4-2-1
              Usyk. 4-0-0
              Joshua. 7-3-0

              The Saudis sure care.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                Well, the race is still underway for decade dominance, as boxing history carries on; but Fury's got to lose a couple in order for the rest of the best to ever catch him.
                Versus today's top 50:
                Fury. 6-0-1
                Wilder. 4-2-1
                Usyk. 4-0-0
                Joshua. 7-3-0

                The Saudis sure care.
                - - Saudis already stiffed by Blubber when he turned down 150mil purse 50/50 split with AJ to fight Deyonce for peanuts.

                Why you make Blubber look so bad?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Saudis already stiffed by Blubber when he turned down 150mil purse 50/50 split with AJ to fight Deyonce for peanuts.

                  Why you make Blubber look so bad?
                  Anthony Joshua is reported to currently have a net worth of 120 million British pounds, which is just under 150 m USD. Tyson Fury is actually worth a little more at 150 miliion USD, and Wilder is worth 45 mil. All wealthy people. Nothing to go on about there. What matters historically is that some time in the next 24 Months, these fights must be made so that this moment of tremendous heavyweight talent isn't wasted:

                  1. Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk
                  2. Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua
                  3. Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua
                  4. Tyson Fury vs. Zhilei Zhang
                  5. Deontay Wilder vs. Jared Anderson

                  Incidently:
                  Anderson has a very tough assignment this summer against Kossobutskiy in the fight to determine whether or not the big push behind him actually holds water. If he passes the test, and wins a couple of fights vs. Top 20 types; a passing of the torch for next US standard bearer will be earned.


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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                    I wonder how many of the fighters below will get a chance against Fury, Wilder, Usyk and Joshua before the era those 4 represent is over?

                    World Champion -
                    Tyson Fury, England
                    1. Deontay Wilder, United States
                    2. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
                    3. Zhilei Zhang, China
                    4. Anthony Joshua, England
                    5. Andy Ruiz Jr, United States
                    6. Joe Joyce, England
                    7. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
                    8. Daniel Dubois, England
                    9. Filip Hrgovic, Croatia
                    10.Dillian Whyte, England
                    11.Derrick Chisora, England
                    12.Martin Bakole, Congo
                    13.Arslanbek Makhmudov, Russia
                    14.Frank Sanchez, Cuba
                    15.Joseph Parker, New Zealand
                    16.Carlos Takam, Cameroon
                    16. Michael Hunter, United States (tie)
                    17.Kubrat Pulev, Bulgaria
                    18.Otto Wallin, Sweden
                    19.Robert Helenius, Norway
                    20.Murat Gassiev, Armenia
                    21.Zhan Kossobutskiy, Kazakhstan
                    22.Agit Kabayel, Turkey
                    23.Simon Kean, Quebec
                    24.Efe Ajagba, Nigeria
                    25.Tony Yoka, France
                    26.Charles Martin, United States
                    27.Jared Anderson, United States
                    28.Adam Kowanacki, Poland
                    29.Fabio Wardly, England
                    30.Jermaine Franklin, United States
                    31.Raphael Akpejiori, Nigeria
                    32.Lenier Pero, Cuba
                    33.Evgeny Romanov, Russia
                    34.Stephen Shaw, United States
                    35.Demsey McKean, Australia
                    36.Bakhodir Jalolov, Uzbekistan
                    37.Ivan Dychko, Kazakhstan
                    38.Alexis Barrriere, Quebec
                    39.Jarrell Miller, United States
                    40.Chris Arreola, United States
                    41.Ali Erin Denirezen, Turkey
                    42.Lucas Browne, Australia
                    43.Hughie Fury, England
                    44.Trevor Bryan, United States
                    45.Lukasz Rozanski, Poland
                    46.Kevin Lerena, South Africa
                    47.Arslan Yallyev, Russia
                    48.Mike Balogun, United States
                    49.Justis Huni, Australia
                    50.Jose Larduet, Cuba​


                    do you reckon moses itauma has a chance anytime soon willow? i came across him by accident and he is so young and talented according to some fans.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by nathan sturley View Post



                      do you reckon moses itauma has a chance anytime soon willow? i came across him by accident and he is so young and talented according to some fans.
                      They are bringing him along super slow. No way he breaks Tysons record, he just won't be ready and doesn't look nearly as polished as Mike in my opinion. Lotta room to grow though. Hopefully he will fulfill his potential and win the world title one day. Even if it takes him 4 or 5 more he'll be plenty young. Who was the last heavyweight champion under 25?
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