Top 20 Heavyweight of all time list agree or disagree

[YGriffith]

Who is Chirsora beating on this list ? I can see only 5 guys he’s defeating

Didn't mean literally half but imo he beats all the pre Liston fighters you mentioned.

Might even throw norton due to his weak chin and liston might be a 50-50 fight.

[WillieWild114]

What are your criteria? Do you have a consistent set of variables you are evaluating on or do you just kind of cherry pick names you feel are great?

As an aside, it seems as if you downgrade pre WWII fighters relative to where others tend to have them (Louis 11 Dempsey 18) yet rank Charles 7th. What took place in the 1940s that you feel allowed boxing to advance so much that you give Charles that high of a heavyweight ranking? At least relative to where most others put him.

My criteria is determination,defence,offence,longevity,notable opponents defeated,Wins,Chin

[The D3vil]

I'm sorry, I can't have Rocky up that high.

Charles is too high, too.

He was a better LHW

[Anthony342]

I'm sorry, I can't have Rocky up that high.

Charles is too high, too.

He was a better LHW

Some say the best one.

[JAB5239]

Who is Chirsora beating on this list ? I can see only 5 guys he’s defeating

I see possibly one in Patterson.

[WillieWild114]

I'm sorry, I can't have Rocky up that high.

Charles is too high, too.

He was a better LHW

How is Rocky too high he was undefeated and defeated notable heavyweight greats.

[WillieWild114]

Some say the best one.

He literally defeated Joe Louis and got alot of HW wins that alone should put him there.

[MikeyMike100]

What changes need to be changed ?
1.Ali
2. Rocky
3.Foreman
4. Holyfield
5. Lewis
6.Fraizer
7.Ezzard Charles
8. Holmes
9. Jack Johnson
10. Tyson
11. Louis
12. Liston
13. Bowie
14.Tunney
15. Vitali
16. Norton
17. Wldamir
18. Dempsey
19. Schleming
20. Patterson

Holmes and Louis should be ahead of Marciano and Foreman. Wladimir ahead of Vitali.

[DeeMoney]

My criteria is determination,defence,offence,longevity,notable opponents defeated,Wins,Chin

So then my next question is how do you quantify these things, and to what extent does each matter.

For example, "determination", since you listed it first I am assuming it is your most highly rated criteria. But how do you measure it? Is this just an eye test thing? How do you account for a fighter who is extremely determined but lacks athletic ability or boxing skills to make anything out of said determination? Then, once you have some sort of measure for 'determination' to what extent does it count towards your overall ranking compared to other criteria? 10%, 15%?

Similarly, when you sight "notable opponents", what specifically does that mean? Is it just name recognition, is it top 10 in the rankings? Do we create an arbitrary line that we give credence to a certain opponent but not another? For example, if we just give recognition to beating a top 10 opponent why draw the line at that arbitrary point? Wouldn't beating a #11 opponent be relatively strong as well. As the saying goes, "be ware of arbitrarily round numbers."

[Anthony342]

He literally defeated Joe Louis and got alot of HW wins that alone should put him there.

Aw hell yeah. And that if he ever got a shot at the light heavyweight title, that he would've won it.