H2H Marciano could beat anyone 200 lbs and below

[uncle ben]

Say what you want about his skill level, but he proved he could beat more skilled fighters. There are no fighters 200 and under who would have an easy night with prime Rocky and all could lose to him.

I'd give CW Holyfield (post Qawi 1) the best odds, perhaps Roy Jones and Michael Spinks (Marciano, however, decimates Leon Spinks and it would be brutal).

No fighter under 175 beats Rocky. So that eliminates Hagler, Hearns, Duran,Leonard, Robinson, Mayweather etc as being possible Rocky conquerors. Despite their superior skill levels, they would all be utterly starched against Rocky.

Just admit it, Marciano was a great fighter.

[ShoulderRoll]

Dempsey and prime Joe Louis would have beat him.

[uncle ben]

Dempsey and prime Joe Louis would have beat him.

Perhaps. But I count Louis as an over 200 pounder.

[Marchegiano]

Yeah, Marciano's the destroyer of men.

There is no record of dominance like his. You'll find no analog in the BK years. You'll find nothing but the most mythological Olympians ***** Marciano's story. If he wasn't known and proven there'd be no reason to believe his **** happened because on the surface of things Marciano's career is bar-none the most impossible.

How many fighters had a nice career post Marciano? About half isn't it? About half the career fighters Marciano fought continued fighting for several years after. Money did some numbers but it ain't that one. Destroyer of men.

Y'all already know his KOs % and the fact that he never lost.

Plenty of weak eras, always catch losses. Plenty of weak eras, not so many fighters with such high KO%. Plenty of weak eras, whose opponents would not retire five fights or less removed from meeting the principle.

Probability is pretty easy on this. Fact is the most likely thing to happen if a man fights Marciano is he gets beaten, KO'd, and hurt so badly he's had the fight literally knocked out of him and can no longer continue his career.

There is no one, ever, in the entire history of boxing who ever did anything like that.

Show me an example of rope-a-dope pre LaStarza. Exactly. And what happened to him? According to Bill Libby Marciano broke his elbows. You can not guard the Rock.

Show me an example of a shuffle prior to Walcott? That is right son, you can not dance The Rock.

He obliterated the pioneers to such a degree I doubt their sons do any differently. The trick is out by the time of Ali....When Joe hit Marciano with a Sucka it was a new punch developed by Joe, hence the name. What if it wasn't? What if Marciano had a generation prior to study? If he could catch up between rounds 2 and 13 would he have even been dropped? No one gives credit for the mental ability of Marciano but that dude was thinking. Two of the most impactful techniques still handed down generation to generation made their debuts against The Rock. Lesser fools of higher regard have had more time to train and understand and coop with them than Marciano and still struggled more to find an answer for them.

Who couldn't hold who's jock? Ol Lar did some dancing....cute...y'all love some dancing so do some praising, but when the real drops what happens? Ol Lar couldn't coop with the same **** Marciano blasted out with less time to figure out.


Which is why in y'all fantasy fights the biggest leap I ever read is Marciano losing. I really don't care about perceived flaws and perceived advantages because that is all perception. What isn't is the probability any human being ever defeats Marciano in any boxing match.

Don't know why people assume I just like Italians or Americans or Whites or punchers or any of the **** I've been told why I am a fan. I'm a fan because I did a lot of research and this dude stood out the most to me. Period, and that's where I end perceptive arguments too. My perception is his story is the most difficult to believe. My arguement for it is all facts. He really did beat everyone and he really did send most of them home demoralized. Check boxrec, look, most the dudes who ever fought Marciano stop fighting once they fight Marciano.

It's not who beats him. It's who is next.

[YGriffith]

Bermain stevern and charls "i walk this earth like a god" martin can beat anyone 175 and below.

They are ATG.

[Flickergrab98]

It’d be pretty neat to imagine how even more dominant he would have been had Cruiserweight existed back then.

[JAB5239]

Jack Dempsey said the only man he ever feared was Sam Langford. Would be interesting to see Langford against Marciano. Would also mention Kid Norfolk and Jack Sharkey, Tommy Loughran and Harry Greb as interesting fights that may be able to upset the apple cart at their best.

[Marchegiano]

Jack Dempsey said the only man he ever feared was Sam Langford. Would be interesting to see Langford against Marciano. Would also mention Kid Norfolk and Jack Sharkey, Tommy Loughran and Harry Greb as interesting fights that may be able to upset the apple cart at their best.

Kid McCoy probably should be part of that list. He damn sure had the guile to trick Marciano into a bad spot....I don't mean feint or anything. Talked Ryan and Maher into giving him wins so reckon that's a good angle.

Not sure Marciano can go light though.

[The Old LefHook]

Jack Dempsey said the only man he ever feared was Sam Langford. Would be interesting to see Langford against Marciano. Would also mention Kid Norfolk and Jack Sharkey, Tommy Loughran and Harry Greb as interesting fights that may be able to upset the apple cart at their best.

In those days fighters complimented other fighters. What Dempsey said means nothing at all. He was about as afraid of Langford as you are of Queensbree..

[JAB5239]

In those days fighters complimented other fighters. What Dempsey said means nothing at all. He was about as afraid of Langford as you are of Queensbree..

I believe when he said it he was speaking of the best version of Sam which he could not of course fought. I also believe it says a lot to Langfords ability and power as Dempsey wasnt so forthcoming about fearing any other fighters. Yes, fighters were more complimentary back then, but I feel this falls into the context I've placed it unless someone can show me different.