What Does Wladamir Klitschko Have To Do To Become A ATG?

[mathed]

Wlad hasn't been beat in 5 years. Out of 56 fights he only has 3 losses. He has made 8 defences of his Heavyweight Title and is The Ring Champion. He would be the unifed champion, if Vitali was reitered also.

And don't say Wlad will never be a ATG, due to getting beat by the likes of Sanders etc. Lots of ATG's have had bad defeats including Archie Moore, Joe Brown, Harry Greb, Jack Dempsey Jake Lamotta, Kid Gavalin, and I could go on. All these fighters had early defeats and setbacks numerous times and come back, and thats what counts how you combeack.

Wlad is as dominant as ever, and at the moment is just destroying the best out there and making former world class amatures look like novices.

In my book with a couple of more defences and dominance he will be a ATG. But I dout the USA will accept this due to him not being from the USA,a due to him not being exciting. But Boxing is all about Hitting and Not Being Hit.

This is not a troll, but I just feel Wlad deserves more credit and I really feel is on the verge of being a ATG.

Discuss...................People

He has to ko his bro and then Valuev and then I'd say he's worthy. It is not is fault that he was genetically gifted as a giant among men.

[Gettin Jiggy]

He has to ko his bro and then Valuev and then I'd say he's worthy. It is not is fault that he was genetically gifted as a giant among men.

as long as he continues to be dominant and carry on to be top contenders, he can't be denied!

[DeepSleep]

I'm afraid no matter who he beats he will never be viewed as an ATG great due to his chin letting him down against some average competition earlier in his career. The main reason I'd say he'd never get viewed as an ATG though is because he has no competition, he is so much better than the rest of the division it diminishes his accomplishments.

[Gettin Jiggy]

I'm afraid no matter who he beats he will never be viewed as an ATG great due to his chin letting him down against some average competition earlier in his career. The main reason I'd say he'd never get viewed as an ATG though is because he has no competition, he is so much better than the rest of the division it diminishes his accomplishments.

ricardo lopez and jeff chandler never had great competiton but are viewed as ATG Fighters.

and archie moore was knocked out by lesser oppostion, but cameback strong!

[Jim Jeffries]

It seems that his brother is getting all the top names at the moment. Peter, Gomez and Arreola. Wlad did beat Chagaev, but who's Chagaev anyway? He was an excellent amateur but as a pro he is still unproven. Or was. If Wlad beats Haye, that is if Haye has the guts to face him, then he's gonna be on his way to ATG recognition. And also Povetkin and Chambers.

Wlad's resume is still a fair bit better than his brothers. Vitali turned pro at 26 and then had that 4 year layoff in between. Vit probably has one or two fights left in him, while Wlad seems to be at the top of his game still, so that's not likely to change.

I think Wlad will get more credit after his career is over, how much depends on what he does from here on out. Beating Haye after David gets by Valuev will help some.

if he keeps it up for 2-3 more years, ill say hes a lock for the hof......atg i cant see him in the top 10 in his division until something drastic happens.....if you look at everyone else you judge them on all the styles they defeated, and how many opponents put up great fights regardless of record....wlads stiff opponents are as pathetic as tysons scared opponents, at least douglas and ruddock helped him out at the end of his prime run....

Douglas helped out Tyson? Am I missing something here?

[Obama]

I have a much simpler answer:

Break Ring ****zine's top 3 p4p. Last I checked, he never made the top 10. Not saying he shouldn't be there now, but either way he's a long ways from #3.

[Gettin Jiggy]

I have a much simpler answer:

Break Ring ****zine's top 3 p4p. Last I checked, he never made the top 10. Not saying he shouldn't be there now, but either way he's a long ways from #3.

Why is the key number #3?

[Obama]

Why is the key number #3?

Not really key, in a weak era of fighters I'd say #1. But with Mayweathers and Pacquiaos around, 3 sounds about right.

[Gettin Jiggy]

Not really key, in a weak era of fighters I'd say #1. But with Mayweathers and Pacquiaos around, 3 sounds about right.

hardly a weak era. marquez, hopkins, mosely, cotto, dawson, john, williams, pavlik, kessler, adamek, vazquez, donaire, caballero, lopez, clottey etc etc. and lots of brillant contenders and prospects!

wlad probs should be in the p4p now anyway do!

[j]

ring mag sucks. they NEVER out heavyweights in their top ten p4p - hardly ever is what i mean. i dont know why. i mean, if a guy has handled dudes near his own size, and dudes who are considered slicker and are smaller, and faced both big punchers and boxers and wins, and has more than 1 belt, he should be in top 20 easily.

anyways, not my point.

wladimir and his bro have been the best fighters in the last decade at least. even when lewis was around, either was a capable challenger - especially vitali who can make lewis look like a toughman slugger.

now, thing is, can we say that this division is weak? or is it that vitali and wladimir are that much better? that is the tougher part. just as people think tyson is so dangerous - i then remember watching his PPV's against opponents who were equals with many of wladimir's opponents.

IMO, wlad is already an ATG. especially if he retains his titles for 2 more years. he has longevity, great KO highlites, boxing skill, power, speed, everything. his only flaw has been catching 1 big punch by sanders(a huge puncher) and being clubbed in the back of the head by peter.

i'd like to see VK be in there as well. he has less fights, but has absolutely owned fighters like nobody i have ever seen. ever.