Hagler Vs. Hopkins: who wins? explain.

[GJC]

Bump..................

Keep seeing that, Bump? Whats it mean please?

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

Keep seeing that, Bump? Whats it mean please?

They are bumping the thread back to the top of the page. It’s all irrelevant though; this fight is way to close to call.

[them_apples]

hagler wouldent be able to outbox hopkins,
hopkins is the better boxer out of the two,
not by much but its true.



that was the only time in his whole carrer he was KD.

I wouldn't say so, a lot of people confuse him as an expert boxer, a fighter who is very fundamental. This isn't necessarily true. Hagler, aside from his stance switching during fights, was the more fundamental boxer.

Hopkins is more of a slickster with a very tight defense, he also moves a lot. Over all I'd call him a slickster though. Hopkins often drops his left to lure fighters to throw the right hand, which he usually rolls, counters, or slips and pulls some other move that only he knows how to do.

I really can't say who wins this, just I give Hopkins the edge because I have never seen him lose to a fighter that doesn't have a significant speed advantage or age advantage.

It is a very hard pick however, Hagler wouldn't be hitting arms all night, that's for sure.

[BEEHOP]

This is a very tough match, I would imagine it would go to a decison and be very very close(SD/MD) with the loser complaining of a robbery.

[TheGreatA]

I thought this was interesting:

July, 2007.

“Sugar Ray Robinson at 147 pounds was close to perfect,” Hopkins posits. “But at middleweight, he was beatable. I would have fought Ray Robinson in close and not given him room to do his thing. He’d make me pay a physical price. But at middleweight, I think I’d wear him down and win. Me and Marvin Hagler would have been a war. We’d both be in the hospital afterward with straws in our mouth. We’d destroy each other. I wouldn’t run from Marvin. My game-plan would be, rough him up, box, rough him up, box. You wouldn’t use judges for that fight. You’d go by the doctors’ reports. Whichever one of us is damaged less gets the win. Carlos Monzon? I could lose that fight. Monzon was tall, rangy, did everything right. I see myself losing that fight more than winning it. I ain’t saying I’m number one, but I’m one of the best middleweights of all time. My legacy is what it is. If you want to be great, then beat Bernard Hopkins.”

[TredKiller]

I thought this was interesting:

i always figured he could beat marvin,
and i think monzon would pose real probblems,
he did everything great, except was a little slow.

[ßringer]

I thought this was interesting:

Very interesting, indeed.

It's interesting that he picks Monzon as the one who'd beat him more often than not.

I've always thought Monzon was a little too slow to deal with the slick counters of Bernard.

And I've always thought Robinson would cream him. But it's a thought to think of the way in which Hopkins says he would've fought him ; in close.

That'd be something to see.

Unfortunately, fantasy fights are such a **** tease.

[TredKiller]

Very interesting, indeed.

It's interesting that he picks Monzon as the one who'd beat him more often than not.

I've always thought Monzon was a little too slow to deal with the slick counters of Bernard.

And I've always thought Robinson would cream him. But it's a thought to think of the way in which Hopkins says he would've fought him ; in close.

That'd be something to see.

Unfortunately, fantasy fights are such a **** tease.

LMFAO,
**** yea they are!

[ßringer]

LMFAO,
**** yea they are!

You get thinking about it.....Thinking about both guys' past performances, and their hallmark wins....then you visualize what it'd be like if they were staring off with each other in the ring....

Then you start thinking about their styles, and what each guy brings to the table in terms of offense, defense, and intangibles.....

Then you start thinking about how it would go down ; would would be the aggressor? Who would draw first blood? Who would be winning the rounds? Any possibility for a knockdown?

Then you realize it's all for naught, because you'll never see the two pricks square off anyway......

Still, it's fun to talk about.

[dde91]

No matter how you look at it, Hagler and Hopkins Careers are very similar.
Both of them had to fight there way to the top in the back streets of boxing for many years, waiting for their opportunities to shine in the limelight. For years they beat every boxer put infront of them in ease. They both had a couple loses in their early career. Then they got the recogniation when Super Stars from lower weight classes came up in weight, thinking they could beat them. (Duran and Hearns for Hagler, De La Hoya and Trinidad for Hopkins.) Those two wins are very similiar because De La Hoya is like Duran coming up from lightweight having boxing and punching skills, and Trinidad is like Hearns, being the KNOCKout Artists from welterweight and junior middleweight knocking out everybody in their paths.
Both finally saw defeat when they were past their primes, but the fights could have gone either way. (Leonard for Hagler, Taylor 1,2, and Calzaghe for Hopkins) Many feel that they won those fights. It's funny how their careers are so similar