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    #41
    For me Marcianos greatest attribute and something he done so well in his time was come forward and push people back. With people like Ali, Holmes or Liston smacking their powerfull jab he wouldnt be able to do this, he wouldnt get into any sort of rythm. As for Holmes and Ali i dnt think he would ever be able to catch them cleanley, and if he did these guys could take his punches. Liston, Foreman and Lewis would be to strong for him, and all wrong for his style anyway i know its a bit Cliché but i see Foreman/Fraizer all over again. Tyson and Frazier are similar to Marciano, but i think they are both faster, hit harder and better at combination punching. After all Marciano was not the most ellusive fighter (more ellusive than some give him credit for) and he cant keep gettinng hit buy these guys.

    Dont get me wrong if Marciano was around today he would beat the big 7ft lumps all day every day. I have the upmost respect for Marciano, just imo he doesnt match up well with the other ATG heavies.

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      #42
      i vote Frazier

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        #43
        Ali - Styles make fights so anyone is bound to be able to beat him, but prime Ali in a trilogy finds a way to come out the winner against everyone. Remember that prime Ali was forced to retire and and he came back and did what he did past it.

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          #44
          I always thought the historic comparisons and pound for pound arguments would make for a decent field of dreams style movie. Where guys from the past and present somehow end up in the same place. Could make for some fun surprises and good drama. Guys like robinson, dempsey, greb and louis would all wreak some havoc but they'd sure as hell be scared of some guys from the present.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Iron Man View Post
            For me Marcianos greatest attribute and something he done so well in his time was come forward and push people back. With people like Ali, Holmes or Liston smacking their powerfull jab he wouldnt be able to do this, he wouldnt get into any sort of rythm. As for Holmes and Ali i dnt think he would ever be able to catch them cleanley, and if he did these guys could take his punches. Liston, Foreman and Lewis would be to strong for him, and all wrong for his style anyway i know its a bit Cliché but i see Foreman/Fraizer all over again. Tyson and Frazier are similar to Marciano, but i think they are both faster, hit harder and better at combination punching. After all Marciano was not the most ellusive fighter (more ellusive than some give him credit for) and he cant keep gettinng hit buy these guys.

            Dont get me wrong if Marciano was around today he would beat the big 7ft lumps all day every day. I have the upmost respect for Marciano, just imo he doesnt match up well with the other ATG heavies.
            I agree with most of this but I believe Marciano was better than Frazier. Not more skilled, but his X factor in toughness pulls it out for me. If they went head to head I believe Frazier would dominate early, but eventually get knocked out. He very well may floor Marciano several times in the early rounds.

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              #46
              You know something? I think Mike Tyson, and I mean a prime, focused Mike Tyson, rules them all. Mike Tysons career did not reach its full potential because of so many reasons. A prime Mike was nothing to mess with.

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                #47
                Originally posted by TheMelvern View Post
                You know something? I think Mike Tyson, and I mean a prime, focused Mike Tyson, rules them all. Mike Tysons career did not reach its full potential because of so many reasons. A prime Mike was nothing to mess with.
                I can buy this. But I do believe Tyson would struggle against the most clever heavyweights. Them, and George Foreman.

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                  #48
                  Dumb question. Whoever the best heavyweight is would cause the most problems ignoring era.

                  If you asked who the best old time heavyweight is who would cause big problems in later decades, I'd say jack dempsey.

                  he was too fast for a lot of the great heavyweights, and I think he had more power than people think, and not just pound for pound. At 190, or even 180, throwing punches the way he did... I mean the guy had 60 first round knockouts including exhibitions. 60.
                  Last edited by glidesmack; 05-19-2009, 11:07 PM.

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                    #49
                    i had to go with my guy vitali. he is as big as lewis, but has a more adaptable fighting style. not to mention tough as hell and has as much speed needed to deal with whatever is thrown at him.

                    i'd give lewis a nod as well. maybe, maybe a foreman.

                    ali i dont see able to deal with guys who are not only big and hit hard, but can move a bit and are smart.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Obama View Post
                      I can buy this. But I do believe Tyson would struggle against the most clever heavyweights. Them, and George Foreman.
                      Throw in Liston

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