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POLL: Which HW boxer would be the most trouble regardless of era?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Tengoshi View Post
    A lot of people are saying Ali, but I'm leaning towards Foreman. Just a brutal physical freak.
    Boxers smart and brave enough could beat him. i.e. Ali and Young. Holmes would do the same, as would Lewis if he had had the guts and endurance he showed in his fight against Mercer.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Slimey Limey View Post
      Boxers smart and brave enough could beat him. i.e. Ali and Young. Holmes would do the same, as would Lewis if he had had the guts and endurance he showed in his fight against Mercer.
      Foreman was no longer mentally the same by the Young fight, I wouldn't consider that "prime". Ali had many close calls and mediocre performances in the 60s, I don't think there is much reason for claiming he is clearly superior to Foreman in regard to this topic. Although just the young Foreman alone would be a powerhouse in any era, imagine if he had even a bit of the later abilities he was forced to develop. A young Foreman with the craftiness and stamina of the old Foreman is quite a scary prospect, he'd have a chance against anyone with that combination of chin and murderous power.

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        #23
        Jack Johnson should be on the list. I'd have him second behind Ali and ahead of Joe Louis.

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          #24
          I'm going with Tyson just because he is everything a heavyweight shouldn't be.

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            #25
            the fact that tyson has seven votes and foreman has five lets me know that a bunch of know-nothings are in the history part of this forum

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              #26
              I voted for Holy, but IMO Joe Louis whoops anyone on this list and is the greatest heavyweight champion ever. I also have him at number 2 P4P.

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                #27
                Lol at more votes for Tyson than Lewis, Louis, Vitali, foreman and Holyfield.

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                  #28
                  Iron Mike Tyson for me.

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                    #29
                    Lol, here is what you need to beat Tyson, pretty good skills and chin, not to be scared of him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Tengoshi View Post
                      Foreman was no longer mentally the same by the Young fight, I wouldn't consider that "prime". Ali had many close calls and mediocre performances in the 60s, I don't think there is much reason for claiming he is clearly superior to Foreman in regard to this topic. Although just the young Foreman alone would be a powerhouse in any era, imagine if he had even a bit of the later abilities he was forced to develop. A young Foreman with the craftiness and stamina of the old Foreman is quite a scary prospect, he'd have a chance against anyone with that combination of chin and murderous power.
                      Carbon copy excuse as Tyson's "prime". With Tyson, it is a pathetic laughable excuse. With Foreman, it is an undisputable fact.
                      Bias.

                      And I don't think Foreman was much more skilled when he was old. In his younger days I see the same Jabs and combinations. All he did was he was more reserved and could pace himself better, and wasn't fighting like a drunk lunatic like in his prime.

                      Ali
                      Young
                      Liston
                      Holmes
                      Lewis

                      These great boxers would beat any version of big George. Size, reach, countering ability, great all around skills and the mental ability and courage.

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