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    for any lewis haterz out there i would like to point out that ATG status goes to guys who have actually acheived greatness!! ifs & buts dont count! tyson may well have been the most devastating heavyweight for a short period in the late eightes!,and his career was undoubtably affected by losing the likes of cus de`mato etc but when you look in the history books lewis has the better resume!! fact!(same aply holyfield)
    Also joe frazier is underated as he (imo) owned ali!! (if it wasn`t for some bad reffin & "bad" cornering, frazier could be 3-0!)(or at least 2-1!)

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      Great Video Machine!!.

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        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        1. Muhammad Ali
        2. Joe Louis
        3. Jack Johnson
        4. Jack Dempsey
        5. Larry Holmes
        6. Sonny Liston
        7. Evander Holyfield
        8. George Foreman
        9. Rocky Marciano
        10. Joe Frazier
        11. Harry Wills
        12. Joe Walcott

        Poet
        how the hell can you not include lewis in that list when you have guys like dempsey,holyfield & marciano???!!!!
        please explain!!

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          1. Muhammad Ali
          2. Joe Louis
          3. Larry Holmes
          4. Evander Holyfield
          5. Lennox Lewis
          6. Joe Frazier
          7. Ezzard Charles
          8. George Foreman
          9. Jersey Joe Walcott
          10. Jack Dempsey

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            evander is underrated on these lists

            his resume over cruiserweight and especially heavyweight is freaking unreal
            (i wont include his cruiserweight fights obviously)
            .Mike Tyson
            .Rid**** Bowe
            .Lennox Lewis
            .Michael Moorer
            .Ray Mercer
            .George Foreman
            .Larry Holmes

            .Buster Douglas
            .John Ruiz
            .Hasim Rahman
            .James Toney
            .Chris Byrd
            .Sultan Ibragimov
            .Bobby Czyz

            what a list, holy ****

            the ones in bold are all shoo in HoFers (or already in there)

            and Toney, Holmes, Foreman, and Lennox are all bonafide ATGs

            and the rest like Rahman, Ruiz etc are all decent quality fighters who have remained factors in the HW divsion for ages

            and his attributes are awesome too
            .Incredible Chin
            .Insane amount of heart
            .Very quick and mobile in his prime
            .Good skills
            .Fast hands and good counterpunching ability


            Holyfield is definitely a top 5 all time HW

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              Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Post
              evander is underrated on these lists

              his resume over cruiserweight and especially heavyweight is freaking unreal
              (i wont include his cruiserweight fights obviously)
              .Mike Tyson
              .Rid**** Bowe
              .Lennox Lewis
              .Michael Moorer
              .Ray Mercer
              .George Foreman
              .Larry Holmes

              .Buster Douglas
              .John Ruiz
              .Hasim Rahman
              .James Toney
              .Chris Byrd
              .Sultan Ibragimov
              .Bobby Czyz

              what a list, holy ****

              the ones in bold are all shoo in HoFers (or already in there)

              and Toney, Holmes, Foreman, and Lennox are all bonafide ATGs

              and the rest like Rahman, Ruiz etc are all decent quality fighters who have remained factors in the HW divsion for ages

              and his attributes are awesome too
              .Incredible Chin
              .Insane amount of heart
              .Very quick and mobile in his prime
              .Good skills
              .Fast hands and good counterpunching ability


              Holyfield is definitely a top 5 all time HW
              Yes, more Holyfield praise. When he fought Bert cooper, damn those were some sharp punches.

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                ali
                louis
                tunney
                holmes
                johnson
                marciano
                jeffries
                lewis
                dempsey
                liston

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                  Originally posted by geribeetus View Post
                  ali
                  louis
                  tunney
                  holmes
                  johnson
                  marciano
                  jeffries
                  lewis
                  dempsey
                  liston
                  see this is what i mean

                  how could you rate tunney, johnson, jeffries, liston etc over holyfield

                  i think with these lists people just chuck lots of old school names in without actually watching the guys fight or seeing what they did and how overrated their accomplishments are

                  james j jeffries for instance...have you seen him and his contemporaries fight?? they were utter ****!!

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                    get the **** over yourself kid. obviously technique and training back then wasnt as developed as it was now. i look at boxers from each era who beat the best of his time. i chuck lots of old school fighters on the list? so you're saying i should only put todays hws on it? by your ****** ass logic anything before today is old school because apparently youre too ****in dumb to notice i didnt put a lot from any particular decade. if i wanted to only list old school fighters i wouldnt have listed anyone after the 50s.

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                      Originally posted by jollystomper View Post
                      how the hell can you not include lewis in that list when you have guys like dempsey,holyfield & marciano???!!!!
                      please explain!!
                      Very simple. The fighters you named are legitimate ATGs while I consider Lewis a near great and NOT an ATG. While I'm a fan of Lennox I have no allusions about him: His chin keeps him from making ATG status in my book. It's not even the two obvious KOs to Rahman and McCall that cause me to fault his chin; rather, it's the number of times I've seen him wobbled by punches that did NOT appear to be all that particularly vicious.

                      Poet

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