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    On size alone, Ali & Foreman bested men of comparable (bigger, even) size than Lewis. Neither beat a man of Lewis' size as good as him, though. At the same time, no one Lewis beat gets within a million miles of being as good as prime versions of Ali or Foreman, so balance is a key.

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      Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
      ALi and Foreman have never beaten someone as big as Lennox Lewis.

      George Foreman is too slow and unskilled and Ali doesnt have the power to hurt him.
      Huh? My Grandmother's been dead for 30 years and SHE'S got the power to hurt Lewis. Lennox was chinny as **** and could be wobbled by a stiff breeze ffs. BTW, calling Foreman slow is a case of pot and kettle because only a demented Brithugger could ever characterize Lennox as fast.

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        Originally posted by fight_professor View Post
        Also, at 6'3/220 Ali was a big guy himself.
        And in Lennox's physical prime, the Ruddock and Bruno fights, he was only 227 and 229 respectively. Certainly not enough of a size advantage to make up for the skill deficit against Ali. I don't believe the weight Lennox added after that would have helped him any against the far more elusive and stronger chinned Ali.

        I also find amusing the poster's prediction of a TKO5 against Foreman, but a UD12 against Frazier. And an unusual clean sweep against the divisions' greatest fighters for a guy who was knocked cold against a couple of borderline clubfighters, arguably lost a decision against Ray Mercer and struggled in the rematch against an aging Holyfield.

        I'd favor Ali, Foreman, Liston, Holyfield and Tyson, among others to defeat any version of Lewis.

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          Primes v LL, yes.

          You forgot Larry. He'd slap the **** out of Lennox.

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            Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            Huh? My Grandmother's been dead for 30 years and SHE'S got the power to hurt Lewis. Lennox was chinny as **** and could be wobbled by a stiff breeze ffs. BTW, calling Foreman slow is a case of pot and kettle because only a demented Brithugger could ever characterize Lennox as fast.

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            Your grandmother must be 230 lbs with an 82 reach, because thats how big Mccall and Rahman were when they got lucky against LL.

            Compare that to a 213 lb jimmy young or a 185 lb Henry Cooper? You cant be serious!!!

            Lewis's chin was better than both Foreman and Ali's. He was only down twice in his career against far bigger stronger men. Withstood hits from Vitali, Tua and Mercer who had some of the highest KO ratios in history.

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              Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
              Your grandmother must be 230 lbs with an 82 reach, because thats how big Mccall and Rahman were when they got lucky against LL.
              Lucky my azz. And weight has no correlation to punching power.


              Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
              Compare that to a 213 lb jimmy young or a 185 lb Henry Cooper? You cant be serious!!!
              And weight has no correlation to punching power. Does size make your d1ck hard or something? Because you're certainly obsessed enough with it that I'm starting to think it's a ***ual fetish of yours.


              Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
              Lewis's chin was better than both Foreman and Ali's.
              Now you're just being ******ed.


              Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
              He was only down twice in his career against far bigger stronger men.
              You beat off at the weigh-ins don't you?


              Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
              Withstood hits from Vitali, Tua and Mercer who had some of the highest KO ratios in history.
              KO ratios included ALL stoppages including cuts, white flags, mercy killings, and pvssying out on the stool (something that happens far more often these days than it used to).

              Dude. Give it up. You have NO credibility. You come across as just another nuthugger (well, shocker that since you ARE just another nuthugger) with NO ability to have a rational discussion about boxing. The emotional wishful thinking that you subsitute for intelligent argument may give you warm fuzzies but it just gets you laughed at by anybody with half a brain. Dude. You're making Brits look bad (not hard to do but still).

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                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                I also find amusing the poster's prediction of a TKO5 against Foreman, but a UD12 against Frazier. And an unusual clean sweep against the divisions' greatest fighters for a guy who was knocked cold against a couple of borderline clubfighters, arguably lost a decision against Ray Mercer and struggled in the rematch against an aging Holyfield.

                I'd favor Ali, Foreman, Liston, Holyfield and Tyson, among others to defeat any version of Lewis.
                I see Lennox keeping his distance against a wild Frazier, ..UD 12.

                Against Foreman... Foreman has never faced anyone with a reach advantage over him. Not only does Lennox have the 84 inches, but he is also bigger, faster, heavier quicker and more skilled than George Foreman.

                Lennox finished every big guy he ever faced in 6 rounds or less and George would be no exception.

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                  Lewis deserves mention among the greats, certainly, but did someone really say he has a chin superior to both Ali & Foreman?

                  Wow. There's something you don't hear every day...or any day, in my experience.

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                    Lennox is a top 10 HW no doubt. I dont think he has a better chin than Ali but he certainly didn't have a glass chin either. He took good shots off Tua and Vitali and stayed on his feet. I'm pretty impressed that this thread has been going on for 3 years lol.

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                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
                      Lewis's chin was better than both Foreman and Ali's
                      Funniest ever comment on the site.



                      Lewis had a C grade chin man.

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