what do you do when someone says MMA is real fighting, and boxing is just punching

[Drunken Cat]

you should send a right hand straight down the pipe and when he's on the ground recalling where he lost his fuzzy pencil cap from the 3rd grade you ask him if it feels like he was just in a fight............Rockin'

I'm actually from a wrestling background (though I have boxed, and had an amateur fight), but the one punch they don't see is the best way to end a petty fight, and I do speak from experience here.

[Drunken Cat]

These "boxers" think they can defend a take down...it's funny.

I am a hard core boxing fan, boxed amateur and love boxing and don't care very much for MMA but there's no ***in way I would enter a cage with a wrestler.

Because if I don't get him in the first few punches, I'm ***in done. I work with pro MMA fighters in the gym all the time, no BS and I can tell you, you want nothing to do with them if they grab you and stopping them from grabbing you is INCREDIBLY hard if you aren't a great wrestler.

People have no clue. Boxing is a sport, MMA is organized fighting.

There is a lot of know how in wrestling, just like any sport.

I can grab onto a guy who's never wrestled and pretty much throw him any which way. Wrestling looks simple because humans can basically instinctively wrestle (throwing a punch actually takes more practice), but for someone who knows the technical aspects of wrestling, there are so many exploitable things. It's basically a matter of where you hang your arm or your leg, where I can use it, how your posture is, how wide you keep you shoulders or elbows, where you place your feet, the way you react to my motions, the way you telegraph your intentions, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. That's basically why a wrestler can have such an easy time with someone who doesn't know technical wrestling. Again, just like any sport, it just takes a bit of know how and practice.

[BOLLOCKS]

I walk away. Maybe have a wank later.

[Drunken Cat]

Look at someone like Werdum or Hederson. Both had 0 striking when they entered the sport and you can see the improvements today but if we're being real their striking, while much improved, still sucks.

Now look at Mirko Filipovic who entered the sport with 0 wrestling/grappling. His TDD was near impenitrable within his first year in MMA. It's alot easier to learn wrestling for defensive purposes than it is to learn competent striking.

You might well be right, but let's not confuse Mirko Crocop with the average kickboxer. Crocop was special, and very few have been able to imitate his ability to do what you described.

Also, Henderson uses his wrestling to set up his striking. He basically doesn't even try to go to the ground any more, but he uses his wrestling a lot, both to keep guys honest, and to bully guys in the clinch (him being a 2x greco roman Olympian).

But, I don't know which is on the average more difficult, a grappler learning to strike or a striker learning to grapple, or learning defensive grappling. It's a debatable point, but to me it also misses the point, which is basically that every fighter is an individual in the end.

[GabrielLogan]

what do you do, what would you do if someone says MMA is real fighting, closer to real fighting cause it involves all aspects of fighting, boxing, kickboxing, the ground game etc, and is closer to REAL fighting, and that boxing is just punching? and not real fighting

They are right

[Shabba Rank$]

So Wladimir Klitschko vs Junior Dos Santos in a street fight?

Who wins?

Wladimir decapitates JDS imo.