what do you do when someone says MMA is real fighting, and boxing is just punching

[Jack3d]

Well boxing is just punching......but MMA is not real fighting. Not even close

[Run]

Junior Dos Santos in a street fight can beat any boxer a live regardless of weight. You wouldn't stand a chance.
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He will kill them. It's just a basic fact.

He's not a fistic artist........but moreso just a hate machine in front of someone else. He'd do whatever he had to do to make sure the boxer wouldn't be able to defeat him if that meant literally dying.

I don't think they can deal with an android like that at all.

If you removed limitations and allowed him to bite/claw/maim he'd just obliterate someone on the street.



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[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Look at someone like Werdum or Hederson. Both had 0 striking when they entered the sport and you can see the improvements today but if we're being real their striking, while much improved, still sucks.

Now look at Mirko Filipovic who entered the sport with 0 wrestling/grappling. His TDD was near impenitrable within his first year in MMA. It's alot easier to learn wrestling for defensive purposes than it is to learn competent striking.

I agree with the last statement but that has nothing to do with the question asked. Boxing is a sport while MMA is more like real fighting, there's no dis*****g that.

He will kill them. It's just a basic fact.

He's not a fistic artist........but moreso just a hate machine in front of someone else. He'd do whatever he had to do to make sure the boxer wouldn't be able to defeat him if that meant literally dying.

I don't think they can deal with an android like that at all.

If you removed limitations and allowed him to bite/claw/maim he'd just obliterate someone on the street.

Or Cain Velasquez, Overeem or any of those ***in monsters. I see them in the cage working out, I wouldn't ***in do it and I have been boxing since I was 13.

I don't want to get picked up, slammed, or kneed in the face...I will pass on that thanks.

[prinzemanspopa]

I don't know how you guys "roll" in the States,but,to me,rolling around on the ground,grappling for dominant position,is not fighting.



Human **** fighting indeed.

[-Deal With It-]

what do you do, what would you do if someone says MMA is real fighting, closer to real fighting cause it involves all aspects of fighting, boxing, kickboxing, the ground game etc, and is closer to REAL fighting, and that boxing is just punching? and not real fighting

You agree.

[Run]

I don't know how you guys "roll" in the States,but,to me,rolling around on the ground,grappling for dominant position,is not fighting.



Human **** fighting indeed.

So it's you and me right.

I'm so god damn positive that if I limit you to stand up punching.....and you let me use any tactic I want ( unarmed of course) I'll end you.

In fact I can stand up/elude punches and fist fight relatively first nature but I'd rather feint you, take you down and thrash.



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[Drunken Cat]

They're both versions of a controlled form of combat, modified by way of rules into a form of sport (in part for safety purposes). It's not so much different from when Jigoro Kano founded judo, from traditional ju jutsu (which by the way is little resembled by and has not much in common with "Brazilian "jiu jitsu"", aside from the lineage of BJJ), and he formulated a method of rule-based sparing, which in turn evolved into the modern sport of judo (the sport being distinct from the art).

I would say that neither is real fighting. If you want to end a fight, there's actually nothing better than a quick right cross, or better yet a hook or an uppercut that they don't see coming (only if you know well how to throw it, that is, regarding the hooks/uppercuts). You can also try jumping on someone's back and putting in a choke. But that takes a little more time, and you run the risk of having their partner bust a bottle over you head, or them sticking a knife into your thy and then slashing open your arms as you try to put them to sleep, etc.

Real fighting is an anything goes, primal kill or be killed, using anything at your disposal type of arrangement. Not saying this is how you should approach fighting in society, as their are laws against things like murder, assault with weapons, etc., which can have you locked in a cage for many years, or worse. The nature of life is still such that there are times (hopefully no one reading this will ever face one) for using everything at your disposal to neutralize a situation, up to and including a blade, a bullet, etc, purely and entirely as a means of self-preservation. In such cases, it is absolutely just, but in such cases only, as in when someone is literally attempting to kill or grievously injure you, and you have no other recourse.

This isn't meant as a lecture on the virtues of self defense, but that is real fighting. Real fighting involves unfamiliar situations and settings, uncertainties with respect to what your opponent is willing and capable of doing, how many people are, or can be, involved, etc.

MMA has a lot which is applicable to fighting though. As I said, a solid punch to the jaw is the best way to end a fight quickly. Baring that however, wrestling is very important. I would say that it is not MMA, but grappling. And not BJJ, either, as pulling a guillotine choke, or jumping on someone's back, is a good way to get slammed onto concrete and have your bones broken, and worse.

I would say that a knowledge of boxing, wrestling, and submissions--especially chokes--is the best ammunition for the petty street fights.

[Rockin']

you should send a right hand straight down the pipe and when he's on the ground recalling where he lost his fuzzy pencil cap from the 3rd grade you ask him if it feels like he was just in a fight............Rockin'

[Rockin']

So it's you and me right.

I'm so god damn positive that if I limit you to stand up punching.....and you let me use any tactic I want ( unarmed of course) I'll end you.

In fact I can stand up/elude punches and fist fight relatively first nature but I'd rather feint you, take you down and thrash.

you know I like you RWK but you know that I would have jumped at that oppertunity before the stroke............Rockin'

[Drunken Cat]

I tell them they are 100% right. Boxing is NOT fighting, if you think that then you don't know **** about the sport.

MMA is definitely closer to real fighting because you can do just about everything. It involves wrestling, kicking, elbows, punches etc...

In a street fight, if a boxer didn't connect early and stun or knock the MMA fighter out, the MMA fighter wins everytime.

Junior Dos Santos in a street fight can beat any boxer a live regardless of weight. You wouldn't stand a chance.

I love boxing but boxing is a SPORT, MMA is organized fighting. I have seen those kicks and elbows and I want no part of them.

I mostly agree, but it isn't necessarily the way you put it. One punch can end a fight in a flash. I'd say, with regards to the JDS comment, at least 95% of the time you are correct, with a pure boxer.

But what about a guy like Vitali Klitschko, who was a kickboxer as well? Or Kermit Cintron, who was a high school wrestling champion who could have wrestled in college. It's more the individual in other words, but in general you are right.

But there are also things like this, which make it not quite as cut and dry.


In the end though, to me real fighting is really mortal combat, including weapons (as humans have used weapons since the beginning of human time). It also involves all forms of pressure points, physical manipulation, etc.