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    Originally posted by man down View Post

    You want more please let me know.



    T Cells I said, not antibodies. Jeeez you’re unashamedly ignorant

    T cells are what helps fight the virus once infected and significantly reduce the chances of severe disease and hospitalisation.

    And were talking about hospitalisation in SA.

    So once again provide a source that states that T cells generated from previous infections don’t offer a level of protection against Omicron.

    Thanks
    Last edited by Dakuwaqa; 12-19-2021, 01:26 PM.

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      Originally posted by man down View Post

      I'm in line right now. I'm asking for four shots because I haven't had one yet. Maybe 5 will do it?
      they are so vaccine happy at the moment they would probably give you 4 if u asked nicely. a little tip that i read the other day from a scientist, mix and match the different brands because you will get a better 'boost effect' apparently lol.

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        Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

        T Cells I said, not antibodies. Jeeez you’re unashamedly ignorant

        T cells are what helps fight the virus once infected and significantly reduce the chances of severe disease and hospitalisation.

        And were talking about hospitalisation in SA.

        So once again provide a source that states that T cells generated from previous infections don’t work on Omicron.

        Thanks
        I agree with you.

        But why are you playing games? T cells are part of natural immunity and they said natural immunity doesn't work, hence T cells won't work. Are we playing word games now?

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          Originally posted by man down View Post

          I agree with you.

          But why are you playing games? T cells are part of natural immunity and they said natural immunity doesn't work, hence T cells won't work. Are we playing word games now?
          Nope.

          The article said natural immunity provides little protection against infection. Antibodies generally wane quicker and are more sensitive to mutations.

          T cells provide protection once infected.

          The article is talking about infection.

          Why are you struggling to understand this?

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            How can NY be so highly vaxxed and set two record days for omicron?

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              Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

              Nope.

              The article said natural immunity provides little protection against infection. Antibodies generally wane quicker and are more sensitive to mutations.

              T cells provide protection once infected.

              The article is talking about infection.

              Why are you struggling to understand this?
              How do you get T cells to protect you against omicron?

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                Originally posted by man down View Post

                How do you get T cells to protect you against omicron?
                2 doses of any of the vaccines/natural infection offer significantly less (if any) protection against Omicron.

                This is true.

                However the immune system is complex and while you are much more likely to become infected you are still protected (somewhat) from severe disease and death. This is primarily down to T Cells.

                This is most likely the biggest reason there have been fewer hospitalisations this time around. The vulnerable have been vaccinated and a bigger proportion of the rest of the population have been infected by previous strains.

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                  Well? We're waiting.

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                    Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

                    2 doses of any of the vaccines/natural infection offer significantly less (if any) protection against Omicron.

                    This is true.

                    However the immune system is complex and while you are much more likely to become infected you are still protected (somewhat) from severe disease and death. This is primarily down to T Cells.

                    This is most likely the biggest reason there have been fewer hospitalisations this time around. The vulnerable have been vaccinated and a bigger proportion of the rest of the population have been infected by previous strains.
                    Ok you want to dance around eh?
                    We know South Africa had a very low Vax rate right?


                    PREVIOUS INFECTIONS

                    Do the other countries not have previous natural infections? Or vaccines? So what's the issue?
                    Last edited by man down; 12-19-2021, 01:46 PM.

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                      Originally posted by man down View Post

                      Ok you want to dance around eh?
                      We know South Africa had a very low Vax rate right?


                      PREVIOUS INFECTIONS
                      Nah no dancing. It’s important to understand what the article is talking about.

                      South Africa does have a relatively low vaccine rate but those vaccinated are the most vulnerable. I.e those most likely to be hospitalised.

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