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    Originally posted by Clegg View Post

    That interview is from March 2019, months before any Covid vaccines existed. You can watch the whole thing on youtube and see how old it is.

    So to recap, you want people to get the vaccine if that's what they want, but you also want to lie to them so you can trick them into not wanting the vaccine?



    You claim that you do a lot of research, yet when the truth is a simple google search away, you still always come up with lies.
    Let's back up a bit. The interview did happen but was taken out of context. If you like I can copy and paste the transcript what's said about vaccines by him is correct and does apply.


    Edit I also think it's odd that you can't find this full video. Can you find it?
    Last edited by man down; 12-14-2021, 07:02 PM.

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      Originally posted by man down View Post
      Fauci says it's not the first time a vaccine made a virus worse. Why isn't anyone talking about this?

      Initial safety is what he is referring to. In other words during testing and before ap[proval...But yes you can get sick from approved vaccines notably live vaccines. My wife's niece got very sick from the Rubella vaccine when she was a child. The Covid vaccines are not live vaccines and cannot replicate in your body. The benefits outweigh the risk as Rubella is rare now since over 90% of the US population is vaccinated against it.





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        Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

        Initial safety is what he is referring to. In other words during testing and before ap[proval...But yes you can get sick from approved vaccines notably live vaccines. My wife's niece got very sick from the Rubella vaccine when she was a child. The Covid vaccines are not live vaccines and cannot replicate in your body. The benefits outweigh the risk as Rubella is rare now since over 90% of the US population is vaccinated against it.




        Sorry Tony it's not worth my time and I have lots of time. You'll never get it even if Pfizer recalls this mess.

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          Originally posted by man down View Post

          Sorry Tony it's not worth my time and I have lots of time. You'll never get it even if Pfizer recalls this mess.
          Yeah its worth your time especially if you have lots of it. Sounds to me like you are avoiding admitting you didn't do your homework before you quoted that source. Tic Toc....Really?????
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            Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

            Yeah its worth your time especially if you have lots of it. Sounds to me like you are avoiding admitting you didn't do your homework before you quoted that source. Tic Toc....Really?????
            Well, a lot sounds different to you like, you won't get covid if you get the Vax. You can't spread it and on and on. So yeah......

            Being that the "vaccine" is a new mRNA vaccine that time to make sure it's right still stands being live or mRNA. The facts are that the time that Fauci spoke about was cut short. Shorter than the traditional vaccines and this was a new kind. Yeah makes sense to me lol. That's why we've moved the goalposts so many times right? Because we didn't take the time to test it.

            Let's see, 330 million people in America and 250 million vaxxed. We have higher deaths and cases with the vaccine. So if this many people are getting covid still with the vaccine who are the ones getting covid? The CDC admitted that there hasn't been a case of re infection. So how many have natural immunity? And we still have all these cases? So who's the ones getting covid?

            So Tony when fraud talks about that HIV vaccine in the video and how it caused people to get HIV easier was that vaccine live or mRNA? Yeah, mRNA imagine that.

            Let's also add this link.


            Then this link


            Then the link we're talking about.
            Last edited by man down; 12-14-2021, 09:08 PM.

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              Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
              Pathetic. Just pathetic. Does the world want to continue living in fear and not living their lives forever? I cannot understand it. Look I did not vote for Donald Trump, I don't ike Donald trump but he aint the devil either like ***** is. Are people really that hateful of the man that they wish to give up their lives forever just to stick it to trump? Or is it something else. I do not understand.
              Terrance it's the Antivaxers that are living in fear. They are the ones afraid of the vaccine. They are the ones digging up anything even clearly edited posts on Tic Tic which isn't any kind of credible source to justify their fears. They don't want to get vaccinated then blame everyone and any thing for their poor decision. I really have a hard time understanding why they are so frightened. Hundreds of millions of doses have been administered world wide and negative reactions are rare. The world does not revolve around the USA and sticking it to Donald Trump. Almost every country in the world is trying to get their people to get vaccinated. Even Trump himself has recommended that people get vaccinated. He also said to Bob Woodward that the virus was a serious problem. Hell he even promoted Operation Lightspeed. They don't have to get vaccinated that's their choice but don't go crying about how life is so unfair. The vaccines have been shown to reduce the length and severity of a Covid infection and in most cases completely shut it down.
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                Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

                Terrance it's the Antivaxers that are living in fear. They are the ones afraid of the vaccine. They are the ones digging up anything even clearly edited posts on Tic Tic which isn't any kind of credible source to justify their fears. They don't want to get vaccinated then blame everyone and any thing for their poor decision. I really have a hard time understanding why they are so frightened. Hundreds of millions of doses have been administered world wide and negative reactions are rare. The world does not revolve around the USA and sticking it to Donald Trump. Almost every country in the world is trying to get their people to get vaccinated. Even Trump himself has recommended that people get vaccinated. He also said to Bob Woodward that the virus was a serious problem. Hell he even promoted Operation Lightspeed. They don't have to get vaccinated that's their choice but don't go crying about how life is so unfair. The vaccines have been shown to reduce the length and severity of a Covid infection and in most cases completely shut it down.
                First of all reply to my response. You called me out then didn't respond why?

                Secondly, fear? How the hell do you come up with people that are "anti vaxxers" are fearful? According to you you will die without the Vax so how is that living in fear? We're not wearing masks, we're going to amusement parks, malls, bars, concerts, ect. You want to see the tickets? Why the hell you calling people that have had their families vaxxed anti vaxxers? All because they've lost trust in the system after being lied to time and time again? Lol your words mean nothing and we will never comply ever.

                The vaxxed are the ones that are living in fear bud. You still wear a mask even when vaxxed lol. You social distance and can't wait to get a booster so you don't die as you think that's what will happen. That's fear my guy.

                I understand your fear tho as I was very fearful because of being post surgery and crappy labs. We did everything we could and when we got it the media made us think I was done for. 14 days later with no medical treatment we were back at it. It was at that very point in time I knew this was hyped 99.7% live.

                It just shows that like you said, Trump said to get it and we can think for ourselves. We question things because our future depends on it. We don't care who says to get it.
                Lack of transparency is key. Hiding natural immunity, acting like you're going to die if you get covid when we know 99.7% live.

                And yeah everything revolves around America. Why? Because we have a constitution to follow that stops this BS in its tracks. So the rest can comply and we can say F off come and try and force it. You'll soon see what happens to the economy when a 3rd shot is required to be fully vaxxed. I guess nurses are dumb, doctors are dumb also for questioning all this right? I'm just some guy on a boxing site giving my opinion. These people are MUCH smarter than I. But they see a reason to take a stand. Maybe just maybe it's because they worked through all of this before a vaccine and were "heros". Now they see that they're just numbers and were able to live through a pandemic for a year being around covid daily in mass numbers and with little protection. A NY hospital just closed because of staff shortages. I can't wait for this booster to be part of the routine. Americans will comply to a point and when it stops making sense they're done. We're very very close to this now.

                I'm fine with you hiding from the unvaxxed Tony but why not trust it? Get your sniffles because the Vax lessens the symptoms and move on. That is, if you REALLY believe is lessens the symptoms. Something tells me you and others don't.

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                  Originally posted by man down View Post
                  Cmon guy you serious?

                  Wikipedia Co-Founder: Site’s Neutrality Is ‘Dead’ Thanks to Leftist Bias



                  Look, you can read the FDA documents as they have no bias but the fact that they retracted lots of info. But the the information is there. Everything else is just noise.

                  I also don't report on covid numbers as those numbers are clear for all to see. The simple fact is, theres more cases now and deaths now than before the vaccine. We also know you can get covid and spread it with the vaccine and breakthrough cases are much higher than first thought. Like we see in locker rooms with players or cruise ships with 100% Vax rate. These are all just facts that need to link. Lots of info to make up your own mind.

                  I simply see it as the****utic at best and you see it as a vaccine. Like I said as soon as all these mandates go away and they stop blaming the unvaxxed for the vaccinated getting covid I don't care what happens after that. Jab away with all the boosters I don't care. Do you understand how ridiculous it sounds to say the unvaxxed are giving the vaccinated covid? Lol. If it works or just makes it a simple cold then what's the issue? Get your cold and move on and stop blaming the wrong people that lied to you.
                  Your inability to discern the validity of things, points, sources, varying information on a range of topics is astonishingly poor. Infact it's pretty clear you simply never give any credence whatsoever to any kind of post that doesn't fit your own viewpoint and agenda. Even if it's quite clear fair points from substantially more sources and more respectable ones. The Wikipedia section broke down several actual events surrounding the person you were using. Have you actually contested the things and events, to be untrue? No, you haven't. Because you can't, they are true.


                  The Trump era has not, it seems, been kind to Breitbart. The rabid far-right media company, which was previously run by Trump’s hyper-nationalist former campaign CEO and chief strategist Steve Bannon, has experienced plummeting traffic


                  Breitbart.com, is an syndicated news, opinion and commentary website founded in mid-2007 by commentator , who conceived it as "the of the right". Its journalists are widely considered to be ideologically driven, and much of its content has been called , , and by and traditional ************* alike. The site has published a number of , instances of and , and intentionally misleading stories.

                  The listing on Wikipedia lists out numerous other sources, articles, events, so you can't just conveniently dismiss them at will whilst somehow bizarrely arguing your source to be more reputable and consensus better respected. And laughably say you are talking facts. It's simply, objectively, false.


                  ​​​​​​Shave Greenstein from Harvard business school
                  I have been writing on Quora for four years, and (at last!) here is a question that touches my professional research. My coauthor and I have published four papers that measures the slant and bias of Wikipedia’s articles about US politics. We published: (1) historical benchmarks for Wikipedia’s slant and bias over time and across topics; (2) comparisons of the slant/bias in Wikipedia to Britannica across topics; (3) measurements of how quickly/slowly revisions lead to unbiased and unslanted content; and (4) analysis of changes in the composition of who contributes slanted and biased content. (See references below).
                  In conclusion…. is Wikipedia full of lefty bias? No, in general, but there will be exceptions here and there.


                  I'd just like to call out an individual comment on Sanger from quota there, as whilst an individual comment it's quite amusing:

                  Sanger is a disaffected crank on the subject of Wikipedia. And he’s a far-right loon: Trump lover, global warming denier, anti-vaxxer, quack medicine, fundie Christian, anti-*****, anti-********.

                  Apparently Sanger is a climate change denier and anti-vaxxer as well, something that goes with the territory for right-wing idiots these days. He complains that articles on global warming and MMR don’t reference climate change deniers or anti-vaxx arguments.

                  Sanger is a crank on all subjects.

                  Frankly, it’s unclear why anyone would hire Sanger for anything. He’s so divorced from reality as to be a danger to himself and those around him.​​​
                  Last edited by Kris Silver; 12-15-2021, 03:18 AM.

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                    so now we have anti-vax *********s plotting attacks. I suppose most *********s are a bit crazy, but if I had to pick an issue to kill/die for it wouldn't be having to wear a mask at the local shop.

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                      Aguero has to retire from football due to heart problems in a club that jabbed 99.9% of all it staff, but its definitely not anything to do with the jabs. BBC deleting any comment that even implies that.
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