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    Originally posted by man down View Post

    Make a mandate for boosters in the US and see how many now take it. People are waking up to this BS.


    Now with this new mutation everyone I talk to says they're done. It is what it is and no more shots. Theyre not lab ****.

    I can't wait until they get this wake up call. Do it *****, try it now.
    There's no mandate for boosters here, although they are on offer for those who want em. What's this got to do with the post you quoted?

    And yeah. For sure. That was the whole point of the conservative assault on vaccination at least IMO - action > reaction - which is precisely what they constantly accuse the 'elites' of. Point was to either force the ***** adminstration to show weakness by backing down or force authoritarian overeaction which would cause outrage amongst many of your citizens. You ever read anything about the history of radical revolutionary movements? Tried and true tactic.

    Could well work too, either your Dems are gonna have to back down or face the real possibility of serious backlash. Pretty well played so long as you don't mind that it's gonna likely lead to a whole lot more deaths. Either way you should get a Red wave in 2022.

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      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post




      Do be fair, ain't no one treating Mexicans like natives despite Mexicans generally having more native blood than card carrying white people who have some bull like "I is 12% Chippawa" or whatever while being named Ted and having blonde hair.

      Point is just because someone expresses doesn't mean they are and just because someone else doesn't express does not mean they are not.

      Hispanics act far more Spanish than they do native....they tend to be far more native than the folks we call natives in the US. Just because they truck out feather in hair Lakota for every single let me cry about white people video on **** like YT doesn't mean America's native population is actually a bunch of red skinned, black haired, feather wearers. Most you'll meet look just as Euro as you and get a card to prove they are indeed native. Get a card cause they gonna need it.

      I hardly share thoughts too....outside of pointing out the mainlanders don't have any right to cry about Columbus because that fool landed on my island not their ****. For real, TF does some Sioux prick whose grands fought Americans know about Columbus's brutal dictatorship over my people? Like **** yeah? Indeed, like ****, but all you ever see is red skins from the mainland whose tragedies happened a few hundred years later.

      So depiction kinda dictates they ham up the native ****. What is the point in being Taino? You get ignored in every facet of "native american" topics. It is far better for any Taino to just be Puerto Rican because Puerto Ricans get heard and taino are just part of them.

      We hear about our Lakota's input and call it "native" which leaves the rest of them out. Do you even know what a plains native vs a mountain native looks like? Kinda sad right? Would you bother in that situation?

      Be an uphill battle convincing honkey latinos are more native than most of their modern tribes so we don't but the fact is anyone who is even a little bit a medical professional, and I do not claim ANY diagnosing ability or training and still know this, anyone who is a pro know Mexicans, medically speaking, and treated like they're natives because that is the majority of their genes and Mexican isn't really a thing medically. They are that native, medical staff does not even run a genetic test unless it's needed for being more specific. They treat mexicans using the same **** they do natives because they are. Where as, got you a card? got you some european features not found in America? Medically speaking you just european.

      So on that, I'd give even a bull****ter a free pass. Any latino can basically take up the native mantle whenever they want and all youse can say is but you ain't no read skin feather hair prick.
      Native Americans in the USA is a term used for the plains Indians as far as I’m aware. Not all natives of the America’s. Inuits are Inuits, Aztecs are Aztecs.

      Have different culture and history innit.

      Malays of Indonesia, Philippines, Southern Thailand, Singapore, Micronesia, Polynesia (you get the point) aren’t the same because they share the same ancestors.

      They’ve been colonised by different countries hand have their own customs and cultures. Innit.
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        Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

        There's no mandate for boosters here, although they are on offer for those who want em. What's this got to do with the post you quoted?

        And yeah. For sure. That was the whole point of the conservative assault on vaccination aty least IMO - action > reaction - which is precisely what they constantly accuse the 'elites' of. Point was to either force the ***** adminstration to show weakness by backing down or force authoritarian overeaction which would cause outrage amongst many of your citizens. You ever read anything about the histroy of radical revolutionary movements. Tried and true tactic.

        Could well work too, either your Dems are gonna have to back down or face the real possibility of serious backlash. Pretty well played so long as you don't mind that it's gonna likely lead to a whole lot more deaths.
        What do you mean it's going to lead to a lot more deaths? We had less deaths without a vaccine. So you can't say that. You can argue lockdowns helped in America but I can show studies that showed they didn't help because it shielded people from vitamin D and kept people in close contact with each other. People still had to go and shop and get something to eat. There's also people that still will have to work like they did, my wife was one of those that had to work.


        Countries with mandated.


        In the end the courts are finally ruling on this BS and our rights are being restored. Dems are going to take a beating no matter what. Just the sole fact that they tried this BS showed everyone who they are.

        To answer your question about deaths. You either trust the vaccine or you don't. You have a CHOICE to decide if its safe or if it works. That's the way it should be. This has gone on long enough to see what the risks are. If someone wants to take that 99.7% risk that's on them.

        Get your vaccine and boosters and don't worry about us. You're safe right?

        You don't like my link? The other day you asked what we've been told and how the goalposts haven't been moved. I gave you a video showing this isn't true. The goalposts have been moved, many times. This video doesn't even show everything but it's a good start.
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          Originally posted by Clegg View Post

          Dunno if you have children or live a life outside of internet rhetoric, but if your kid is coughing and has a runny nose, or has any kind of virus (corona, flu, anything like that) you shouldn't be sending them into school in the first place.
          kids get colds. as i said, you are all acting like he had bubonic plague. if we are isolating kids for having runny noses over winter you wont have any kids in the classroom. these rules are pathetic and not achieving anything, apart from in this case giving a kid hypothermia and wasting the ambulance services time. oh and also destroying the economy because the goverment/scientist have once again scared people into WFH (AKA doing nothing from home), cancelling xmas parties and crippling the hospitality sector even further.

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            Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post

            kids get colds. as i said, you are all acting like he had bubonic plague. if we are isolating kids for having runny noses over winter you wont have any kids in the classroom. these rules are pathetic and not achieving anything, apart from in this case giving a kid hypothermia and wasting the ambulance services time. oh and also destroying the economy because the goverment/scientist have once again scared people into WFH (AKA doing nothing from home), cancelling xmas parties and crippling the hospitality sector even further.
            These guys forget how often kids get sick. I remember when we first sent our daughter to school and for years she got many colds per year. It builds their immune system. How the hell does anyone expect kids to fight off colds in the future if we keep them in a bubble. Chit I remember chicken pox parties when I was a kid. Yeah my mom took us to one.

            Our daughter has a cold that she's getting over right now. She is still plugged up tho. We did go buy a xovid test just out of respect for others and it was negative. It's like people forgot people still get colds or some chit. Her school says if you have cold symptoms you have to stay home for ten days. Being that our daughter is all about her grades she doesn't want to stay home and I'm not going to make her after a negative covid test. I do wait for the call from the school tho. I'll drive up there with this other covid test and show them she doesn't have covid.


            Think about all the money wasted in all of this. Schools got so much money from all this. We still had to pay 180.00 for the year for school supplies even tho we pay a arse load of taxes and they got funding for covid to use to help families. Where did the money go? Why don't they buy these rapid tests for schools if there's such a concern? We funded everything else and more so why not a common sense approach?

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              Originally posted by man down View Post

              These guys forget how often kids get sick. I remember when we first sent our daughter to school and for years she got many colds per year. It builds their immune system. How the hell does anyone expect kids to fight off colds in the future if we keep them in a bubble. Chit I remember chicken pox parties when I was a kid. Yeah my mom took us to one.

              Our daughter has a cold that she's getting over right now. She is still plugged up tho. We did go buy a xovid test just out of respect for others and it was negative. It's like people forgot people still get colds or some chit. Her school says if you have cold symptoms you have to stay home for ten days. Being that our daughter is all about her grades she doesn't want to stay home and I'm not going to make her after a negative covid test. I do wait for the call from the school tho. I'll drive up there with this other covid test and show them she doesn't have covid.


              Think about all the money wasted in all of this. Schools got so much money from all this. We still had to pay 180.00 for the year for school supplies even tho we pay a arse load of taxes and they got funding for covid to use to help families. Where did the money go? Why don't they buy these rapid tests for schools if there's such a concern? We funded everything else and more so why not a common sense approach?
              i totally agree mate, its lunacy.
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                Originally posted by man down View Post

                What do you mean it's going to lead to a lot more deaths? We had less deaths without a vaccine. So you can't say that. You can argue lockdowns helped in America but I can show studies that showed they didn't help because it shielded people from vitamin D and kept people in close contact with each other. People still had to go and shop and get something to eat. There's also people that still will have to work like they did, my wife was one of those that had to work.


                Countries with mandated.


                In the end the courts are finally ruling on this BS and our rights are being restored. Dems are going to take a beating no matter what. Just the sole fact that they tried this BS showed everyone who they are.

                To answer your question about deaths. You either trust the vaccine or you don't. You have a CHOICE to decide if its safe or if it works. That's the way it should be. This has gone on long enough to see what the risks are. If someone wants to take that 99.7% risk that's on them.

                Get your vaccine and boosters and don't worry about us. You're safe right?

                You don't like my link? The other day you asked what we've been told and how the goalposts haven't been moved. I gave you a video showing this isn't true. The goalposts have been moved, many times. This video doesn't even show everything but it's a good start.
                I ain't worried about you man, but I will still keep getting up in your face when you post that old vaccine nonsense.

                And yeah I already watched your TikTok with the sheep and agreed that the ***** admin did indeed exaggerate the benefits of vaccination at the top of my post about the indigenous Australians. I also hold your Dems substantially responisble for politicising the pandemic in the first place for what it's worth although your conservative media have since taken that and run with it since they been in the opposition. Kinda my point.

                As to the rest, yeah. Undoubtedly the massive wave of antivax misinformation on the right wing media and social media outlets has contributed to more deaths although I ain't gonna keep on trying to explain that to you cos I know you ain't listening and I ain't got the patience to do it again right now.

                And I never tried to take your choice away man, I said from day one I didn't personally approve of mandates although I also think every community or government needs to make what they think is the best call for their own society regardless of my personal feelings. What I also don't approve of is people spreading flagrant bullchit exaggerating side effects or downplaying vaccine effectiveness or minimising the full risks of COVID from long term illness and permanent damge as well as simple mortality to suit some agenda.

                So. Ima just keep on doing what I do and I expect you'll just keep on doing what you do.

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                  Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post

                  kids get colds. as i said, you are all acting like he had bubonic plague. if we are isolating kids for having runny noses over winter you wont have any kids in the classroom. these rules are pathetic and not achieving anything, apart from in this case giving a kid hypothermia and wasting the ambulance services time. oh and also destroying the economy because the goverment/scientist have once again scared people into WFH (AKA doing nothing from home), cancelling xmas parties and crippling the hospitality sector even further.
                  What is it you do man? Has all this shizzle affected you personally in some significant way? You lost your job or your business run into the ground or some ****? And what you got against folk working at home? Bit of a judgy cunt aincha?

                  And just how do you know how the economy would have fared if we hadn't taken lockdown measures.? Why are you assuming things woulda been any better. The Swedes tried that and basically didn't do any better than their neighbours economically yet had a far greater mortality per capita.

                  Whilst we're at it why do you think that the population at large should weigh economic well being above health and life? I mean that may be your assessment, particularly if you're young and at low risk - but you don't get to decide what others should consider accptable risk and what they shouldn't. After all we can all bounce back from being broke but there ain't any bouncing back from being dead or having permanent lung scaring.

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                    Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post



                    I'm not scared nor am I trying to hide, I'm just taking sensible precautions to mitigate risks both to myself and others.. Same way I wear a seatbelt when I drive even though there's only a slim risk of needing it. Nor do I know anyone else who seems to be particularly scared. Bit frustrated maybe but certainly nothing close to how things seem to be in your imagination with a humiliated and beaten population cowering in their homes..... Mostly everyone I know just going about their business. Maybe you need to get out a bit more?

                    Don't you think it a little strange that you've chosen to phrase it that way though? Contemptuous language designed to elicit a powerful emotive response. The langauge of the propaganda you've been consuming in fact.

                    And you and I both know that whilst vaccines offer good protection they ain't a panacea so once again why you playing dumb?. A child isolated whilst awaiting pick up - providing obviously it's in reasonable conditions - is far better than a class with half a dozen or a dozen infected children with a high chance of passing it on to other relatives with all the knock on effects that result. And yeah, once again, if the parents had been paying even moderate attention to the rules about sending in symptomatic kids this would never have bben an issue.

                    And the point of the lockdowns is primarily to reduce the number of infections happening at the same time to a managable level - minimal if possible - so that both healthcare and other services are as much as possible able to continue to provide necessary services including those to non-COVID patients who also require treatment. Vaccination is a major part of that strategy - and things would be far far worse right now without it - but whether it is enough by itself is dependent on a variety of factors.
                    ive been out plenty mate worked all the way through it unvaccinated,was my taxes that have been paying for the workshy and scroungers to hide at home and to have their 3 jabs.
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                      Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

                      I ain't worried about you man, but I will still keep getting up in your face when you post that old vaccine nonsense.

                      And yeah I already watched your TikTok with the sheep and agreed that the ***** admin did indeed exaggerate the benefits of vaccination at the top of my post about the indigenous Australians. I also hold your Dems substantially responisble for politicising the pandemic in the first place for what it's worth although your conservative media have since taken that and run with it since they been in the opposition. Kinda my point.

                      As to the rest, yeah. Undoubtedly the massive wave of antivax misinformation on the right wing media and social media outlets has contributed to more deaths although I ain't gonna keep on trying to explain that to you cos I know you ain't listening and I ain't got the patience to do it again right now.

                      And I never tried to take your choice away man, I said from day one I didn't personally approve of mandates although I also think every community or government needs to make what they think is the best call for their own society regardless of my personal feelings. What I also don't approve of is people spreading flagrant bullchit exaggerating side effects or downplaying vaccine effectiveness or minimising the full risks of COVID from long term illness and permanent damge as well as simple mortality to suit some agenda.

                      So. Ima just keep on doing what I do and I expect you'll just keep on doing what you do.
                      See this is the issue. You say you're pro choice but also agree with people being locked out of stores and jobs. You can't have it both ways. But like always you politic your answers.

                      Hey you keep doing you I'm fine with that. We've already shed light on the BS. You can call it fake all you want but the facts are there's more cases and more deaths with the vaccine. You can't deny that. You also can't deny that governments are scrambling to add boosters every three months because your vaccine works so well, just lol.

                      You don't change something that works. But yeah keep buying into the BS and help the government move the goalposts.

                      What you don't understand is we wouldn't have to argue about all of this if they weren't trying to adjust the vaccine because it doesn't work.

                      Listen to fauci and gates in that video. Why the *** is gates involved anyway? Who the *** is he? He has no degree in anything.

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