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    Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post



    you owe me an apology

    Daily Covid deaths are currently running at less than half the rate expected in a bad flu year, MailOnline analysis suggests as experts claim the UK is finally on the brink of beating the pandemic.

    There are growing calls for No10 to learn to live with Covid rather than focus on halting the spread of the virus now there is such a big disconnect between infections and deaths.

    Right now just 130 people are dying from the every day in England at what is believed to be the peak of the outbreak, compared to 1,300 last January before vaccines were widely available.


    Daily deaths have barely moved since the start of autumn, despite infection rates more than quadrupling over the same time following the emergence of the ultra-transmissible variant.

    For comparison, Government estimates show there were more than 400 influenza deaths per day at the peak of the last bad flu season in 2017/18, and almost 300 daily fatalities the previous year. Just like this winter, hospitals were forced to cancel routine operations and patients were told to steer clear of A&E units during both of those outbreaks.

    ​ Man, the Mails being a little bit slippery there ain't they? Date on the article is the 10th but they claim the 'latest recent count' is 131 cases daily ... which was indeed the rolling 7 day average on January 1st, but that was not ever thought to be peak Omicron by anyone credible... in fact it's likely to be at least another week or two before we reach peak - and that of course is assuming case numbers continue to fall.

    As of January 10th - yesterday - the rolling 7 day stood at 191 which the Mail would have known full well. Factoring in the 379 reported deaths for today will raise the rolling average by (391 - 48)/7 = 49... meaning it's currently standing at more like 240 deaths per day. The Mail knew it was going up man.

    Now. That ain't to say that the Omicron surge won't be the a major factor in COVID becoming endemic or the beginning of a return to a 'new normal' but the Mail is being a bit duplicitous here. Like I said to Man Down above there's a strong political element to these kindsa recent stories across the UK press, I shouldn't suddenly drop your cynicism now just because they started saying what you want..

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      Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post


      ​ Man, the Mails being a little bit slippery there ain't they? Date on the article is the 10th but they claim the 'latest recent count' is 131 cases daily ... which was indeed the rolling 7 day average on January 1st, but that was not ever thought to be peak Omicron by anyone credible... in fact it's likely to be at least another week or two before we reach peak - and that of course is assuming case numbers continue to fall.

      As of January 10th - yesterday - the rolling 7 day stood at 191 which the Mail would have known full well. Factoring in the 379 reported deaths for today will raise the rolling average by (391 - 48)/7 = 49... meaning it's currently standing at more like 240 deaths per day. The Mail knew it was going up man.

      Now. That ain't to say that the Omicron surge won't be the a major factor in COVID becoming endemic or the beginning of a return to a 'new normal' but the Mail is being a bit duplicitous here. Like I said to Man Down above there's a strong political element to these kindsa recent stories across the UK press, I shouldn't suddenly drop your cynicism now just because they started saying what you want..
      Doesn't matter China got something new for us now.

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        This is the hearing today..

        Listen to this chit. You can't count a vaccine death if it hasn't been two weeks but now you can?

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          No one? No one wants to talk about this?

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            I think its safe to say that this pandemic is over, and no amount of masks or mandates will ever eradicate Covid. It will now go down into our history as the newest virus right next to the Spanish Flu as as something we will now endure to the end of time. Luckily data shows its effects will decrease overtime as we acquire wider herd immunity, and the virus hopefully mutates to become even less severe.

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              My new favorite variant


              IHU

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                Originally posted by man down View Post
                This is the hearing today..

                Listen to this chit. You can't count a vaccine death if it hasn't been two weeks but now you can?
                You seem to be misunderstanding. They're saying even deaths that clearly have nothing to do with the vaccine are reported to vaers as deaths after the vaccine. You know how Koba has been explaining this to you for months?

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                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                  You seem to be misunderstanding. They're saying even deaths that clearly have nothing to do with the vaccine are reported to vaers as deaths after the vaccine. You know how Koba has been explaining this to you for months?
                  No YOU seem to be misunderstanding this. Pfizer said you can't make a report until two weeks after you get the jab. We also know VAERS is only reporting 1%, yes the link was posted from VAERS themselves. Also, congress in the 80s signed a bill saying they need to keep the VAERS data accurate.

                  With all this said, the fact that they acknowledged there's deaths but they don't know how many shows they know people are dying from the vaccine. Yeah like they don't know lol. Pfizers own data after 2 months shows over 1000 deaths. But they didn't even want to say that.

                  Make a report to VAERS and tell me how far you get Robbie. You'll need your doctor's name and info. Yeah lots of fakes lol.
                  Last edited by man down; 01-11-2022, 05:39 PM.
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                    Originally posted by man down View Post

                    No YOU seem to be misunderstanding this. Pfizer said you can't make a report until two weeks after you get the jab. We also know VAERS is only reporting 1%, yes the link was posted from VAERS themselves. Also, congress in the 80s signed a bill saying they need to keep the VAERS data accurate.

                    With all this said, the fact that they acknowledged there's deaths but they don't know how many shows they know people are dying from the vaccine. Yeah like they don't know lol. Pfizers own data after 2 months shows over 1000 deaths. But they didn't even want to say that.
                    The 1% number was from data from 2007, to claim that now is ridiculous. They are saying they don't know how many died because of the vaccine because vaers counts every death after the vaccine even when it clearly has nothing to do with the vaccine.

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                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                      The 1% number was from data from 2007, to claim that now is ridiculous. They are saying they don't know how many died because of the vaccine because vaers counts every death after the vaccine even when it clearly has nothing to do with the vaccine.
                      They are presently reporting that a large percentage of people admitted to the hospital have Covid but it isn't the primary reason they are there. They aren't fudging those numbers now and they haven't fudged the numbers in the past. All you have to do is look at the spike in the numbers of deaths in the last two years to realize that Covid has had a huge impact on the yearly death rate. Last year it was the number three cause of death in the US.

                      Last edited by TonyGe; 01-11-2022, 06:24 PM.

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