Omicron now

[man down]

I've seen reports of all the protests you've reported here as if they're some kinda secret on regular media and news article in the UK, they're smaller than many of the antiwar protests we get over here and more or less the same size as the kinda political protests we often get or the various protests over unpopular legislation or in Germany say the size of environmental protests...

I ain't seeing any cover up but maybe you're getting different news in the US?

We're getting zero information. We even have protests here and they're not showing them.

I love the way you always try to play it all off like it's nothing. Lol you wonder why people call you a shill. According to you the Vax is amazing and it's cured covid and life is all back to normal. There's no mandates and your against them but when I show you a video you say we'll it for the safety of everyone. Lol make up your mind. Again, if the vaccine works but very few breakthrough cases are getting through then what's the issue with the non vaxxed?

[Clegg]

We're getting zero information. We even have protests here and they're not showing them.

Odd you should claim the US media didn't cover the European protests/riots

CNN covered it on November 20th then twice more on Nov 22nd

Fox covered it on Nov 20th again on the 21st

Forbes

Wall Street Journal

We can keep going if you like. Why are you talking as if the media didn't cover these events? Did you only check tik tok and nothing else during the 3 days the US media was reporting on the whole thing in great detail?

[man down]

Odd you should claim the US media didn't cover the European protests/riots

CNN covered it on November 20th then twice more on Nov 22nd

Fox covered it on Nov 20th again on the 21st

Forbes

Wall Street Journal

We can keep going if you like. Why are you talking as if the media didn't cover these events? Did you only check tik tok and nothing else during the 3 days the US media was reporting on the whole thing in great detail?

You saw it on TV? *** didn't just get online articles. I watch these networks daily.

[Citizen Koba]

We're getting zero information. We even have protests here and they're not showing them.

I love the way you always try to play it all off like it's nothing. Lol you wonder why people call you a shill. According to you the Vax is amazing and it's cured covid and life is all back to normal. There's no mandates and your against them but when I show you a video you say we'll it for the safety of everyone. Lol make up your mind. Again, if the vaccine works but very few breakthrough cases are getting through then what's the issue with the non vaxxed?

**** you talking about? You're the only one called me a shill but then I consider you a brainwashed puppet so I guess we're about even.

And yeah, pretty much - it ain't a massive deal to me. All your crying about totalitarianism or tyranny is just what I expect of government, it's just ****ers like you never tried to do anything that challenged authority before. Remember what I said about 'all government is tyranny'?

Bear in mind I been in and around political, industrial or environmental protest my entire life so I've never been under any illusion that behind the velvet glove of any 'democracy' is the iron fist of authoritarianism. My old man was tortured by his government, I was watching mineworkers corralled by police and having the fuck kicked out of em when I was 11 or 12 years old, watched the police stand by whilst private security smashed up folks homes with their kids inside. Got dozens other stories too. I been batoned, stamped on, choke locked and arrested simply for standing up for causes I believe and now you want my sympathy for folk being asshats during a public health crisis? Telling me I don't understand how society works?

Me and those like me know full well that Governments have always retained strong prophylaxis over information and the media- it's just that good law abiding apolitical potatoes like you never tried to do anything that got in the way of government before. Ha ha, it's like you suddenly had your eyes opened and you're telling someone who had their eyes open all along how it all works.

So yeah, spare me the crying. Buncha middle class crybabies suddenly realising in the middle of a global health crisis that the world wasn't made just for them to do just what the **** they please don't impress me that much. And I also know full well that if Rupert fcuking Murdoch and his ilk had decided you guys should be singing the praises of vaccines the vast majority of you would be.

Sorry, man. That's the world I see.

[Madison Boxing]

Mmmm. Except most people who ain't immersed your informational echo chamber which is constantly filling you full of outrage and fear about some impending totalitarian doom are just pretty much shrugging and going about their daily business. Most people I know ain't trembling in fear of some authoritarian hell or indeed particularly worried about COVID but just mildly grumpy that this **** is still going on through another Xmas.. Just like - 'Nother variant? Meh. Who cares? More masks? Ah sucks but whatever. And I can guarantee you no one I know is seeing the Government as 'saviours' or whatever other fantasy you dreamed up.

I dunno man, I mean I was literally brought up to distrust all Government and I see many of the things you do, but I also know that yes, these kinda authoritarian measures are precisely what normally happens when socieities are under some kinda communal threat be it from disease, famine or war... 50, 60 years ago the post war generations in the UK or Europe wouldn't have blinked at such measures or even stricter ones being put in place in the event of a health crisis of this magnitude. More trusting times maybe, despite the fact that in reality our Governemnts have always treated us like disposable sheep.

And FWIW I also know that more less countries round the world have followed the textbook advice on how to deal with infectious disease outbreaks almost to the letter with mistakes made sure, and the inevitable corruption and cronyism... but give or take our health services have done what they were designed to do... save lives and protect people from harm. Now the balance struck between safety and personal freedoms is always gonna be an open one and there ain't any single good answer... it litierally depends on the healthcare capacities, social security nets, levels of personal savings and dozens of other factors that vary from country to country.

Strikes me that firstly we just so used in our wealthy Western democracies to basically living free form these kindsa threats that it's a big shock to the system, specially when our healthcare system are actually so efficient at this point they've basically shielded us from much of the impact this pandemic may have had, so it's easy to believe it ain't a big deal, and secondly that in the past there was never such an impactful and infuential alternative and social media challenging the official version of events... problem is just because because Government ain't doing what you want it to do it doesn't necessarily follow that Murdoch, OAN or the army of social media infuencers and alt-med personalities fanning the flames of your outrage have your interests at heart either. Occur to you that maybe they want you angry for their own ends?

Anyways, just food for thought. This ****s weird to me cos all my life I'm the one been arguing about the dangers of neo-*******ism and authoritarianism and Governemnt overeach and the menace of corporatism but what I'm seeing here ain't ringing the kinda alarm bells it clearly is for you. This shit is just Government doing what Government always does.

this is exactly the problem and shows that their plan works perfectly. if you introduce the changes slowly, gradually noone cares or they look at the positive 'oh at least we arent locked down all the time anymore'. look at masks, we gone from mask wont work, to mask advised in vulnerable, to mask advised in everyone, to masks compulsory, to being fined if you dont wear mask. weve gone from vaccines for those at risk, to vaccines available to everyone, to travel limited f you arent vaccinated, to vaccines compulsory in some jjobs, to unvaccinated not allowed in events/to do certain jobs, to unvaccinated being locked down, to vaccines compulsory in everyone and fined if you dont have it. Honestly, how can you and others not see that there has been a cold calculated plan to slowly introduce these changes into society and make a population that is more submissive and easier to manipulate than ever? There will be lots of new changes in next couple of years just as there has been in the last 2 years.The media have done an absolutely fantastic job because they portray those who are sceptical as morons and in the papers they will put stories of the most ****** people like piers corbyn singing songs or interview some dumbass so everyone who doesnt tow the line of the government are considered 'misinformed', dumb and even dangerous!!! You wont see proper scientists on bbc or any main****** media who can have a conflicting view, there is no room for debate. why do u think that is? theres been nobel prize winners who have spoke out on this and been silenced very quickly. They had some professors on talk radio who said its an exaggerated response and they took the damn channel down. The governement know people dont trust politicians which is why the motto in every country is follow the science (but only the scientists that we allow to speak)

[Clegg]

You saw it on TV?

Weird, you didn't specify TV in your original post. You should be more specific with your conspiracy theories in future.

So the US media are covering up the European protests by giving them full attention on their websites, but not showing them on TV? That's a strange, contradictory approach. Not how cover-ups normally work.

is this not from the TV?

[mromano]

Omicron sounds like something from Transformers. I guess our only means of salvation for the world is to call in the Autobots! In the immortal words of Optimus Prime, "Autobots, roll out!"

[Marchegiano]

Does bleach kill corona?

[Citizen Koba]

this is exactly the problem and shows that their plan works perfectly. if you introduce the changes slowly, gradually noone cares or they look at the positive 'oh at least we arent locked down all the time anymore'. look at masks, we gone from mask wont work, to mask advised in vulnerable, to mask advised in everyone, to masks compulsory, to being fined if you dont wear mask. weve gone from vaccines for those at risk, to vaccines available to everyone, to travel limited f you arent vaccinated, to vaccines compulsory in some jjobs, to unvaccinated not allowed in events/to do certain jobs, to unvaccinated being locked down, to vaccines compulsory in everyone and fined if you dont have it. Honestly, how can you and others not see that there has been a cold calculated plan to slowly introduce these changes into society and make a population that is more submissive and easier to manipulate than ever? There will be lots of new changes in next couple of years just as there has been in the last 2 years.The media have done an absolutely fantastic job because they portray those who are sceptical as morons and in the papers they will put stories of the most ****** people like piers corbyn singing songs or interview some dumbass so everyone who doesnt tow the line of the government are considered 'misinformed', dumb and even dangerous!!! You wont see proper scientists on bbc or any main****** media who can have a conflicting view, there is no room for debate. why do u think that is? theres been nobel prize winners who have spoke out on this and been silenced very quickly. They had some professors on talk radio who said its an exaggerated response and they took the damn channel down. The governement know people dont trust politicians which is why the motto in every country is follow the science (but only the scientists that we allow to speak)

Weird thing is I can absolutely sympathise, I really do. I've beaten my head against more brick walls than I care to mention trying to get my beliefs out to people... **** that was so obvious to me but other people just couldn't seem to see....

Problem is all the circumstances you describe can also be explained by the rather less convoluted explanation that y'know governments and health services around the world are just determined to save as many lives as possible and whilst they would prefer it was done voluntarily they ultimately ain't gonna have endless tolerance for the feelings of a minority of people who believe their right to not give a **** trumps other people's right to life and health.

uItimately governments have always used control of information to minimise or suppress dissent (most notably in wartime, but in any other crisis too) and power has always ultimately rested upon the threat of force. Only difference is you never really got to see it from the blunt end before.

[billeau2]

Does bleach kill corona?

I don't know but I definitely prefer a lime!