Omicron now

[Madison Boxing]

moderna CEO says youll need another booster around autumn time, doesnt have any data regarding the 3rd booster but says he doesnt expect it to 'hold great' until then. moderna working on vaccine for omicron despite many scientists saying that the spread of that variant could signal the end of the pandemic. Pfizer CEO in complete agreement with moderna, says youll need another booster and further ones down the line

[Madison Boxing]

Find it hilarious that when these anti vaxxers try to be smart they show how dense they are. Does it need to be explained again to you that the vaccine lessens the symptoms more than stopping the ability to catch the virus? Did you forget since the last time you were told?

okay so it lessens the symptoms but now the hospitals are under more pressure than ever after everyones been jabbed? explain that one einstein

[Robbie Barrett]

moderna CEO says youll need another booster around autumn time, doesnt have any data regarding the 3rd booster but says he doesnt expect it to 'hold great' until then. moderna working on vaccine for omicron despite many scientists saying that the spread of that variant could signal the end of the pandemic. Pfizer CEO in complete agreement with moderna, says youll need another booster and further ones down the line

Does this really need explaining to you?

Omicron while weaker is still putting many in hospital. It's well established that protection of the vaccines weakens over time, so yes vaccines will be needed if Omicron is still around at the end of the year. C'mon man, think a little.

[Robbie Barrett]

okay so it lessens the symptoms but now the hospitals are under more pressure than ever after everyones been jabbed? explain that one einstein

A lot more people are infected. Australia did a good job of keeping the other variants contained. Way more people infected = more people getting sick. Doesn't take Einstein to work it out, just an IQ above 50.

[Dakuwaqa]

okay so it lessens the symptoms but now the hospitals are under more pressure than ever after everyones been jabbed? explain that one einstein

They under more pressure partly because of the staff absences. The infection rate is significantly higher than it’s ever been = more people off sick.

Hospitalisation are much lower than January which is mainly thanks to vaccination. Delta infection has been steady for months.

[Madison Boxing]

A lot more people are infected. Australia did a good job of keeping the other variants contained. Way more people infected = more people getting sick. Doesn't take Einstein to work it out, just an IQ above 50.

do you have the balls to admit your beloved jab is a lot less effective than you thought. the guy with the flame can answer too. its a weaker strain aswell, surely a jab should have stopped the hospital admissions. and know you called into question my statistics the other day too barrett, this is what your prime minister said..

'He said some 30-40% of the 17,000 patients in hospital with Covid "haven't actually been vaccinated at all"'. so thats up to 70 percent of patients in hospital with covid who are jabbed, wow sounds like its really the 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'

[Dakuwaqa]

do you have the balls to admit your beloved jab is a lot less effective than you thought. the guy with the flame can answer too. its a weaker strain aswell, surely a jab should have stopped the hospital admissions. and know you called into question my statistics the other day too barrett, this is what your prime minister said..

'He said some 30-40% of the 17,000 patients in hospital with Covid "haven't actually been vaccinated at all"'. so thats up to 70 percent of patients in hospital with covid who are jabbed, wow sounds like its really the 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'

Again you struggle to understand even the most basic of ideas.

The fact it’s weaker is pretty much irrelevant to vaccine efficacy if the structure of the virus isn’t what the vaccine is targeting. i.e large number of mutations to the spike protein.

The fact you fail to grasp this shows your clear lack of understanding.

Mutations and vaccine efficacy were discussed before the vaccine had been approved. It was common knowledge that future variants might evade the immune response.

Luckily the vaccines have been strong at preventing deaths which is why were aren't seeing the 1000+ daily deaths as we did with the first two waves.

[Stebs]

Again you struggle to understand even the most basic of ideas.

The fact it’s weaker is pretty much irrelevant to vaccine efficacy if the structure of the virus isn’t what the vaccine is targeting. i.e large number of mutations to the spike protein.

The fact you fail to grasp this shows your clear lack of understanding.

Mutations and vaccine efficacy were discussed before the vaccine had been approved. It was common knowledge that future variants might evade the immune response.

Luckily the vaccines have been strong at preventing deaths which is why were aren't seeing the 1000+ daily deaths as we did with the first two waves.

You and Robbie should up and stop acting like you know what your talking about when it comes to vaccines, Virologists and doctors are split on the vaccines and their effectiveness..You two have no f'ing clue about vaccines but you want to force what you were told by the news on others.

Critical thinking doesn't seem to be part of either of yours forte

[Dakuwaqa]

You and Robbie should up and stop acting like you know what your talking about when it comes to vaccines, Virologists and doctors are split on the vaccines and their effectiveness..You two have no f'ing clue about vaccines but you want to force what you were told by the news on others.

Critical thinking doesn't seem to be part of either of yours forte

What are you on about Sonny Jim?

We have a huge amount of data on the effectiveness of vaccines.

Which virologist and doctors are split? Post sources and we can break it all down! Xx

[Madison Boxing]

Again you struggle to understand even the most basic of ideas.

The fact it’s weaker is pretty much irrelevant to vaccine efficacy if the structure of the virus isn’t what the vaccine is targeting. i.e large number of mutations to the spike protein.

The fact you fail to grasp this shows your clear lack of understanding.

Mutations and vaccine efficacy were discussed before the vaccine had been approved. It was common knowledge that future variants might evade the immune response.

Luckily the vaccines have been strong at preventing deaths which is why were aren't seeing the 1000+ daily deaths as we did with the first two waves.

i just dont get it, so the vaccines not good with stopping this weaker strain but we all need a third shot of that jab. the vaccines amazing but whenever a new strain comes along every couple of months its ****e. can u or barrett just admit it isnt the holy grail it was made out to be and then we can all move forwards with our lives