Ever since Fury changed trainers, I've been convinced he'll lose

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There’s not going to be much change in Fury ,you don’t change what worked last time . Subtle changes is all that’s needed that’s going to be just better technically sound shots with intent to hurt . Fury will also pick and choose when to lean on Wilder to drain him .

It all comes down to not taking his eyes off Wilder this time because that’s how the knockdowns happened , a new trainer doesn’t change that so adding to what Fury already knows against an opponent who doesn’t exchange punches only helps him out .

Not sure what kind of shape Fury needs to be in ,if he’s better prepared this time what difference does it make ,it doesn’t . If the fight is determined by Furys ability to keep aware of Wilder vs a desperate guy knowing he needs to land any shot and hope Fury is off his game ,why would anyone put money on Wilder this time ?

[Blond Beast]

I think that is Wilder by KO is a very popular choice for many pundits.

Thing about Wilder is that he is consistent with knocking people down and hurting them every single fight.

The question mark is always around Fury's mental state and preparation - which is clearly inconsistant.

I was worried when he switched trainers as well - but Kronk should be as good, if not better than Ben Davidson.

The last video I watched had 10-1 picking Fury, but that’s just one poll. I looked at the odds thinking maybe Fury would be favoured now but Wilder seems to be favoured even if it’s just by a smidge. Course Vegas odds are written depending on the money coming in. At this point I’d like to see Fury win by KO or Wilder win on points just to really bend things, that’s what keeps everyone interested after all. All this talk about Fury coming in heavy on purpose at 270lbs is either mind games or an excuse for him coming into camp overweight. We will know more at the weigh in. If they let anybody weigh in other than just their skivies, i.e Sombrero and shirt, I’ll be pissed. I think it’s a joke that millions can be spent on betting while we can’t get a honest look at a fighter if they want to cover up. If Fury wins on points no one will be surprised, if Wilder wins by KO no one will be surprised. I don’t want sum snooze fest, but it’d like to see something nobody suspected.

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You think so ? I think you are one of the more knowledgeable posters here




I bet 20$ with a friend God dammit

I dont know man. You're right though. Fury normally is in the limelight. But im buying hes taking this that serious that he wants nothing but pure focus on this fight. Like he said all the cameras are there until you get knocked out cold and then there gone. Comments like that got me thinking hes for real on it.

I don't know man.. Fury looked good on the scales, but so did Wilder.

A gun to my head, I'd have to say Wilder but both looked good and confident I feel.

[LacedUp]

Davison trained him in what exactly?... I guess he acted more like a wellness coach...

How about trained him to what should have been the biggest comeback story in boxing history?

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I don't know man.. Fury looked good on the scales, but so did Wilder.

A gun to my head, I'd have to say Wilder but both looked good and confident I feel.

Wilder looked good. Tightened up. Solid Fury could have been sucking that gut in with his chest poking out. We will see tomorrow for sure. His arms looked good and face was ok too. Could he have put 15lbs in muscle on?

[juggernaut666]

LOl Great minds are in the same gutter. I just posted to this thread and am reading your take.

Id hold off on that great minds until after this one ..lol


I do like Furys weight because hes been in the camp at that mark , I do like Wilders weight as well , hes proven to me to be more dangerous at above 220 even if others don't study fights ,I do and know we will get best of both tonight ….BUT...unsure of what type of fury injury was ? Ive seen enough footage that it doesn't really matter ,its a close quarter position fight not as much moving unless Fury is ahead comfortably after 7 rounds.

I really just don't know I picked Fury to win the first one and lose the rematch before they even fought ……… but people have to under stand Wilder is a real guy standing 6'7 long reach himself and at this weight I know not think he is more dangerous and will fury stay focuses if he does'nt get a knockout ?


I'll stick with my change though ,going Fury 11th round stoppage just to change it up a bit .But Wilder is going to be hard to stop tonight.

[billeau2]

Id hold off on that great minds until after this one ..lol


I do like Furys weight because hes been in the camp at that mark , I do like Wilders weight as well , hes proven to me to be more dangerous at above 220 even if others don't study fights ,I do and know we will get best of both tonight ….BUT...unsure of what type of fury injury was ? Ive seen enough footage that it doesn't really matter ,its a close quarter position fight not as much moving unless Fury is ahead comfortably after 7 rounds.

I really just don't know I picked Fury to win the first one and lose the rematch before they even fought ……… but people have to under stand Wilder is a real guy standing 6'7 long reach himself and at this weight I know not think he is more dangerous and will fury stay focuses if he does'nt get a knockout ?


I'll stick with my change though ,going Fury 11th round stoppage just to change it up a bit .But Wilder is going to be hard to stop tonight.

I did not like the weigh in, Fury with the shirt and all, and his weight. However I also heard his dad after the weigh in speak, and I think John Fury is honest about his son...and he is not concerned about the weight. So yeah, I am also thinking hard. Wilder absolutely looks great, best i have ever seen him frankly.

Fury by stoppage in the 11th is your prediction? Man I wish we could handicap lol. My heart says Fury by points with possible judge interference, my head says that weight is a no no. Fury is spectacular and took the shots before, usually makes the boxer the advantage, so I will go with my heart here.

We do not know Wilder's chin, what happens if he really gets tagged well. That is the unknown here.

[billeau2]

I don't know man.. Fury looked good on the scales, but so did Wilder.

A gun to my head, I'd have to say Wilder but both looked good and confident I feel.

I don't know more than you don't know! sorry could not resist. I don't think its ever good that a fighter ways a lot more for a fight. Wilder is an exception because he looked really fine tuned, and he may have been underweight his last fight. But Fury coming in that heavy bugs me. As I posted to Juggs Fury's dad seems ok with it, and that means a lot to me, as I trust his dad's perspective... But its a hard pill for me to swallow that it benefits fury to come in at that weight compared to last time.

[juggernaut666]

I did not like the weigh in, Fury with the shirt and all, and his weight. However I also heard his dad after the weigh in speak, and I think John Fury is honest about his son...and he is not concerned about the weight. So yeah, I am also thinking hard. Wilder absolutely looks great, best i have ever seen him frankly.

Fury by stoppage in the 11th is your prediction? Man I wish we could handicap lol. My heart says Fury by points with possible judge interference, my head says that weight is a no no. Fury is spectacular and took the shots before, usually makes the boxer the advantage, so I will go with my heart here.

We do not know Wilder's chin, what happens if he really gets tagged well. That is the unknown here.

Furys weight is only an advantage if we go by his ring IQ, he wouldn't be that weight tonight and this long in camp which is miles if you really been boxing long so id have to assume that weight is an advantage bc that's what I would do knowing I could catch Wilder early and have extra weight in later rounds ? IDK

Even Wilders own weight which I do like COULD backfire to a bigger guy if its an ugly fight ? I see Wilders foundation a severe weak point ,I think balance is a must and Wilder that's his weakest point if you know how to attack that and that's hit hiom off balance which dpont require power shots. This is a huge advantage for Fury .

If wilder does win hes certainly has that win he needed but Joshua in my eyes is that guy he needs to fight a more difficult match up ,but if fury wins he doesn't hold the favorite card in my eyes either ,I believe Joshua has the style to deal with both I stand by that .

[billeau2]

Furys weight is only an advantage if we go by his ring IQ, he wouldn't be that weight tonight and this long in camp which is miles if you really been boxing long so id have to assume that weight is an advantage bc that's what I would do knowing I could catch Wilder early and have extra weight in later rounds ? IDK

Even Wilders own weight which I do like COULD backfire to a bigger guy if its an ugly fight ? I see Wilders foundation a severe weak point ,I think balance is a must and Wilder that's his weakest point if you know how to attack that and that's hit hiom off balance which dpont require power shots. This is a huge advantage for Fury .

If wilder does win hes certainly has that win he needed but Joshua in my eyes is that guy he needs to fight a more difficult match up ,but if fury wins he doesn't hold the favorite card in my eyes either ,I believe Joshua has the style to deal with both I stand by that .

Good call. Wilder almost made it to the 11th lol. yeah Fury trained for fighting with the weight and did... Hopefully we get to see Joshua and Fury fight.