Comments Thread For: Hearn is 'Gutted' After Wilder's Manager Tabbed Joshua For 2020

[Smash]

One Champion, One Face, One Name

[davefromvancouv]

They're just waiting for Hearn to say one word, 50/50, and the same (or better) $50 million guarantee against 50% Showtime/Sky offer will be made. Unless Hearn makes a better offer for DAZN. He has yet to do this, so they are preparing for other fights after the Braezaele mandatory...

[Jax teller]

Hearn saying something on IFL doesn't mean it's true. His actions behind the scenes are often the opposite of what he claims on IFL. He's a promoter. His job is to lie to the public.

He's said it on many channels and is yet to recieve an higher offer from Showtime to disprove this. Wilders team have done all the talk about how it's a bigger PPV than DAZN's 40 mil offer event but failed to even attempt to back up their words. So it is a complete, baseless presumtion to assume Hearn will denie AJ a better offer than what DAZN provides and frankly shows bias.

Recently his actions have shown that he is willing to work with other networks to provide for the fighters best interests with the likes of Crolla, Khan, Chisora-Whyte 2 etc.

You all like to call him a liar but only really get him contradicting himself on minor technicalities or if the original statement was months ago and his position has actually changed. Not saying he doesn't lie but generally most stuff he says seems legit apart from maybe when he's trying to sell underwhelming fights which is his job.

[Boxingraya]

2020 is 8 months away. How exactly is that ducking? After Breazeale there may be an Ortiz or Kownacki fight and then hopefully a rematch with Fury. A Wilder/Joshua fight in the spring or summer of 2020 is perfect.

lol. exactly. People around here are acting like it's 1999 or something.

[Redgloveman]

DramaC just made an excellent point 2020 isn't that far away when you consider deontay fighting breezy and taking a little break before his next fight.by that time will be heading near 2020 fast

But it completely misses the point that it demonstrates no desire to make the fight. It smacks of stalling. No doubt 2020 will roll around and Finkel will come out with more excuses and delaying tactics

[Fabes88]

Is Joshua-Wilder a bigger fight in the UK than Joshua-Fury or Joshua-Whyte 2?

Much bigger than Joshua whyte 2 but nowhere near as big as Joshua fury.

[PotentialToast]

If the WBC has offered Whyte something he is thinking about, it must mean a shot at Wilder before AJ. My prediction is second mandatory to be fulfilled before the end of the year. If Whyte was made mandatory with no indication that the WBC would enforce the mandatory, then he would know that AJ would get the fight first and be kicking off (rightly so).

[doom_specialist]

I like to think I’m a realist. Joshua turned down 50m true but he’s pretty much recouped that from the povetkin and Ruiz fights. How long will it take wilder to make 120m based on his current purses?

I honestly don't care. I want to see them fight, so the pissing match over who makes more is irrelevant.IThat's for the boxers and promoters to bicker over.

Turning down $50M with 50% revenue constitutes a duck unless someone is paying you more. Joshua turned the fight down for no other reason than "I want to fight specifically this fight at home. I'll travel to America for a way lesser fighter that nets me less though". That's a duck to me, because any other fighter alive would have flown over the same year for the same deal. When you reason that Joshua can make the same money in 2-3 fights, it makes him look like more of a duck lol.

Turning down $120M + percentage for 4 fights when you have nothing else going on, when that deal would get you the guy who you claim is ducking you, is hypocritical. Likely detrimental to your own career too. I personally think that you shouldn't have to sign a multi fight deal to get one guy, but it's way better money than Wilder is getting now, and that's what this is all about anyway. I don't know what either side has planned besides making fans wait longer, but they're both at fault at this point.

[Redgloveman]

Only Joshua fans keep pretending that Hearn himself didn't only say the money was legitimate, but also said that they were willing to make less because Joshua wanted the fight in the UK "for the fans". Whenever I post the link, that results in someone talking about contractual disputes and other excuses. When I bring up that Mayweather-McGregor and Mayweather-Pacquiao was made despite glaringly obvious contractual problems, then I get called names.

Refusal to send a contract is not a “contractual dispute” it’s a failure to enter into contract in the first place. If you make an offer and then fail to honour that offer then how is it legitimate?

I can’t actually believe there are still people who are harking back to this complete bs which happened like 12 months ago when all Wilder’s team has shown us is a complete unwillingness to make any effort to make the fight ever since.

WAKE UP! Wilder’s people don’t want this fight and never did.

By supporting them you’re just letting them get away with coasting along with the easiest fights possible so that they can continue to frustrate DAZN’s attempt to have a unified HW champion

[Redgloveman]

Nah, Joshua just has to wait until next year, like he did Wilder with "Wembley 04/13" lol. I'm not fixated on it, more than I am fascinated by how Wilder can't get away with doing what Joshua did, to only certain fans. Over a month ago I called out Wilder and admitted that he should have taken the $120M deal, because it's a Mayweather level contract that most boxers would die for. I'll link my post if you'd like to read it.

Joshua fans can't admit that he turned down a blockbuster though. I criticize people from both sides of the pond, because I'm more interested in fights rather than what fighters get paid.

I don’t see the inconsistency personally, but only because I don’t think Wilder and Joshua’s actions are the particularly

The way I see it, Wilder turned down an offer which was the result of fairly extensive and close negotiation. That’s not in dispute.

Joshua got timed out by an artificial deadline on an “offer” which amounted to a headline price and nothing more. Hearn asked for a meeting and was refused... what kind of business refuses to meet when they want to make a deal? That’s how nation states deal with *********s not how business interests make deals.

The whole way Wilder’s team conducted themselves seemed shifty to me and contrary to sound business logic (going public with Hearn’s emails, refusing to meet, imposing artificial deadlines)

The offer made by AJ to Wilder didn’t have any of that funny business attached to it, Wilder just refused the deal because of “loyalty”.

That’s how I see this whole thing going down