$15 Million is a ****ty offer to Golovkin

[Eff Pandas]

Insanitymath & estimates or A+ trolling.

That said I definitely think GGG should be getting more than the offer thats out there. Although more directly to the point whats the point of agreeing to anything when they each are guaranteed to have 1 fight & perhaps 2 fights before they fight each other anyway. Things change on a dime in boxing sometimes. If either guy looks bad or gets a bs decision that will & should affect their value in any rumored Sept. or later showdown.

[Eff Pandas]

dude, who gives a ****..none of us are getting any money from this fight, so why are you so stuck on the numbers??? enjoy the holidays and focus on yourself

Talking about fight negotiations & financial **** is a part of boxing for some of us since few elite level competitive fights happen nowadays. If you don't like talking about it fair enough, but I don't like talking about fights that aren't going to happen for a year or two or at all so I just tend to avoid those threads & focus on the **** I do enjoy talking about.

[_Maxi]

I'm not saying that it's only GGG's fault; I don't know everything that is happening behind closed doors. Canelo is clearly not in a rush to make this fight though.

But if GGG was in fact presented with a $15m offer to fight sometime earlier than September 2017, then I'd say GGG is more to blame.

See? you people talk before knowing. No, there was never an offer to fight before september 2017. Also that date can be even pushed back to 2018 because Canelo might fight Chavez jr and then BJS.

There's zero fault in GGG.

[JJRod]

If Golovkin does anywhere close to the canelo smith numbers this is a 60/40 purse. If he beats canelo smith with jacobs it's 50/50. I explain the math below. We can all agree this ppv with canelo will do minimum 500,000 buys and sell out 100,000 tickets.

Scenario 1- ppv does 1 million with canelo.
PPV Buys-1 million buys at $70= 70 million dollars
Gate-100,000 at $500 average ticket price=50 million dollars

15/120=12.5 percent of overall revenue

Scenario 2-ppv does 500,000 with canelo
PPV Buys-500,000 at $70 = 35 million
Gate is the same at 50 million

15/85=17 percent of the revenue

K2 isn't dumb. They know after golovkin jacobs numbers that will match the smith canelo numbers this flat fee piece of **** offer will make no sense. Now $15 million sounds a lot to the average casual dumass on NSB. K2 and GPB know the fight will do at least 500,000 buys. This fight will do close to a million. When you break the numbers down, 15 million is a terrible offer. After golovkin jacobs GPP will have no leg to stand on. Canelo and GPB are not getting rich off golovkin. Only logical choice for this fight is to do a split offer to golovkin.

Under no scenario will Oscar allow Canelo to accept a 50/50 or even 60/40 fight. No matter what the numbers are you have to remember one thing, Oscar doesn't really want to make the Canelo/GGG fight.
Canelo can make the Chavez JR fight, the Sanders fight, hell a rematch with Cotto is still possible.

[The Problem Child]

It's a slap in the face, meanwhile, Canela gets 70 million lol. GTFO!! What kind of offer is that, thats like 80-20. GB doing everything they can to not get the fight done.

[BrometheusBob.]

See? you people talk before knowing. No, there was never an offer to fight before september 2017. Also that date can be even pushed back to 2018 because Canelo might fight Chavez jr and then BJS.

There's zero fault in GGG.

It's my understanding that Loeffler said there was such an offer, but OK.

[_Maxi]

It's my understanding that Loeffler said there was such an offer, but OK.

What is "such an offer"?

An offer to fight before september 2017? No.
A 10-15 million offer? All I know about it is:

1) When Canelo said that after the Smith fight, GGG's team posted a picture on instagram saying that Canelo was speaking nonsense.
2) Abel Sanchez said that if 10 millions were ok for GGG then it would be ok also for him. It hints you that at least Sanchez doesn't see 10 millions as a very bad offer.

But you can't buy GBP bullshit like that. You don't even know what was offered. Maybe there was an offer for 10 millions flat fee but with a lot of bullshit details such as making GGG wear bigger gloves, dictating ring size, etc. We don't know.

GBP is saying things like "Golovkin is running from Canelo"... can someone actually believe that lie? well... if you are anti-GGG biased you will for sure try to give some credit to all the **** they are saying.

PS: don't forget:

[davidandrei]

Ggg had mandatory status which he wanted to enforce in order to secure 25 percent split. Gbp offered 10mil flat. So clearly 10mil < 25 percent. Otherwise why cry about 25 percent.

Now they offer 15mil for a September fight. Ggg is not going to sign now before his next fight. Now I believe 15mil > 25 percent which would have been fair money before. Gbp want to secure ggg now for 15mil and not take a chance.

If ggg vs Jacob's does well, as in comparable to canelo numbers then surely ggg can get more than 25 percent. If it doesn't, then he deserve just 25 percent or if he lose, he deserve nothing.

Both of these sides are trying to are trying to maximize their values. The point I'm tring to make is that their economic position and leverage can change drastically within a year with the correct fights. Gbp is tring to lock up the fight a year in advance with a fair offer with today's values. Ggg side is clearly asking for more but they will not be making any decision until the fight is actually close to the date.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Stopped reading at $50 mil gate

[OnePunch]

What is "such an offer"?

An offer to fight before september 2017? No.
A 10-15 million offer? All I know about it is:

1) When Canelo said that after the Smith fight, GGG's team posted a picture on instagram saying that Canelo was speaking nonsense.
2) Abel Sanchez said that if 10 millions were ok for GGG then it would be ok also for him. It hints you that at least Sanchez doesn't see 10 millions as a very bad offer.

But you can't buy GBP bullshit like that. You don't even know what was offered. Maybe there was an offer for 10 millions flat fee but with a lot of bullshit details such as making GGG wear bigger gloves, dictating ring size, etc. We don't know.

GBP is saying things like "Golovkin is running from Canelo"... can someone actually believe that lie? well... if you are anti-GGG biased you will for sure try to give some credit to all the **** they are saying.

PS: don't forget:

This right here.

If there is language limiting GGGs split in a rematch, that could be a deal breaker regardless of the purse numbers being thrown around.

And being that Golden Boy sent Chavez an offer with a rematch clause, that tells me right there that their offer to GGG included an escape clause that lets them opt out of the deal if they want. And what that means is that the offer wasnt 10 million, and it wasnt 15 million, it was ZERO, because thats how much a contract with an escape clause is worth. Its worth ZERO