Why do some posters on boxing forums..

[1g5a22]

yeah but you don't understand. if kovalev-ward looks exactly the same as kovalev-chilemba(without the knockdowns) a lot of people on here will have ward winning a wide decision or even saying schooled. they don't care what actually happens. they don't care who's landing cleaner. they are just fanboys. wards winning because he's ward is the best way to sum it up.

Chilemba is a step up from anyone Ward has fought recently anyway. Besides Chilema is a little taller & has a longer reach than Ward.. Similar styles yes (waiting out, counter-attacks, waits in defense and waits for the right moment) but no two fighters are the same! I suspect Kovalev was a little auto pilot & under estimated Chilemba a little.. A Kovalev on full cylinder & with a bee in his bonnet is a thing of beauty! Ward will bring the best out in him.. Besides it was a near dominant win anyway!

[1g5a22]

The OP ducking my post. Calling Froch a bum. You bummy poster.

I'm sorry. Exactly where did i call Froch a bum? Ducking this?:

1g5a22 I'm the only person on Boxing Scene that made a thread about Carl Froch being a better win than Kovalev. I put up a poll and the majority of NSB agreed with you that Kovalev would be a better win because he's a better fighter.

I'm a Brit & Carl Froch is one of the best fighters off these Islands EVER, there's no shame in being behind Carl. If Kovalev were to retire after the Ward fight he could probably lace up Frochs left glove but he's banned from touching his right

Froch is not a better win than Kovalev because Froch lost to Kessler. He arguably lost to Dirrell & looked far more beatable in numerous fights. Westermam, Taylor & Groves etc..

Now show me Kovalev getting schooled by a Groves or a Taylor or a Dirrell? Show me Kovalev getting bashed around by a Westerman or a Kessler? Show me Kovalev looking cluleless against boxers like Ward or Hopkins?

Show me AL these examples of Kovalev consistently struggling though-out his career? Show me Kovalev losing 25 rounds? Show me Kovalev losing 15 rounds to B/C level boxers like Westerman, Charles Adamu or Magee?

[bojangles1987]

Style of fighter. Froch=Kessler too. Fairly ID, fairly flat footed (though Kessler had a bit of bounce in his younger days) upright, move in straight lines, predictable. Froch was also ponder-some & struggled to adapt to boxers but had a warriors heart & instinct which was able to overcome most of the time. Guys like Calzaghe, Ward, Hopkins & Kovalev would have his number ALWAYS!

Froch did not struggle to adapt to anyone. He was actually pretty good at adapting and coming on strong in the second half of fights. The only time he couldn't was against fighters where his athletic disadvantage was too much. Dirrell is the only fight I can think of where Froch was outmatched late in a fight.

[1g5a22]

The only time he couldn't was against fighters where his athletic disadvantage was too much. Dirrell is the only fight I can think of where Froch was outmatched late in a fight.

That's what i said. Can't you read? I said struggled to adapt to BOXERS... Ward, Taylor, Groves & Dirrell! I wouldn't say they were a masterclass in adaptation. He slugged it out & was fortunate they had (the latter three) plastic mandibles & in Groves case poor pacing issues too! I saw no real adaptation.. I just saw them fighters get tired with pressure & Frochs strong constitution & heart overcoming.

Froch was predictable & ponder-some. No shame in that as many great fighters are but don't make him out to be great adaptor in fights now too. He looked the exact same in the Kessler rematch as he did first time round. Difference was Kessler was further faded.

[Chollo Vista]

Pavlik was the Kovalev of his time, not stylistically, but in a sense that he was a come forward killer with an iron chin. He was labeled an unstoppable killer.

[1g5a22]

What is crazy for me is how people think the winner of this fight is somehow the P4P #1 even after saying the type of stuff you mentioned, absolutely crazy!
Ward has done nothing relevant and his resume is bloated beyond all realms of reality and Kovalev whilst absolutely is talented and gifted he hasn't fought better than GGG maybe you can say otherwise after he has fought Ward.

I'd also like to take a moment to mention that people who bash Kelly Pavlik conveniently say he would beat Golovkin, Mr.One Dimensional Ameribum suddenly could beat everyone at 160 just because people now know he is one and done and the safe fact that they will never have a true way to find out what Kelly would have done in a much stronger 160 division no mistake about it Kelly fought in a very abysmal division at the time of his reign apart from prime Martinez.

Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch are limited as fxck maybe Ward fans want to demean Kovalev as much as possible so If Ward wins we can rightfully say well it wasn't that good of a win anyway because you said it yourself he isn't that good.

I like both Froch & Pavlik but there is a racial element as to why the comparisons are happening. Pure ignorance! If they want o compare him to anyone on Wards resume then compare him to Dawson.. Athletic, intelligent, versatlie boxer! Although Kovalev is far less fragile & way more complete.

A bigger & better Sergio Martinez

[1g5a22]

He was labeled an unstoppable killer.

Not by me.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

Ward fanboys in the run up to Froch fight.. That bum got schooled by Dirrell & Taylor, he ain't ****! Flat footed eurobum. Ward beats him.. Froch is without doubt the greatest fighter bar Ward! LOL

This is essentially you calling him a bum. What Ward fans called him a bum in the run up to the Super 6 final???

Nobody did. You've made up absolute rubbish. At least bump a thread or quote someone. I've sussed your agenda.

[1g5a22]

This is essentially you calling him a bum. What Ward fans called him a bum in the run up to the Super 6 final???

Nobody did. You've made up absolute rubbish. At least bump a thread or quote someone. I've sussed your agenda.

I'm sorry. Exactly where did i call Froch a bum? I have actually said i like Froch & he is a great champion in this thread you tool LOL

I was paraphrasing. It was years ago & i read many derogatory comments towards Froch even pre Taylor on boxing forums. Go find them yourself. I don't care if you think that rubbish! Now back to the post i supposedly ducked & to which you never responded to, just jumped in on another conversation. I'll remind you:

Froch is not a better win than Kovalev because Froch lost to Kessler. He arguably lost to Dirrell & looked far more beatable in numerous fights. Westermam, Taylor & Groves etc..

Now show me Kovalev getting schooled by a Groves or a Taylor or a Dirrell? Show me Kovalev getting bashed around by a Westerman or a Kessler? Show me Kovalev looking cluleless against boxers like Ward or Hopkins?

Show me AL these examples of Kovalev consistently struggling though-out his career? Show me Kovalev losing 25 rounds? Show me Kovalev losing 15 rounds to B/C level boxers like Westerman, Charles Adamu or Magee?

[M Bison]

I like both Froch & Pavlik but there is a racial element as to why the comparisons are happening. Pure ignorance! If they want o compare him to anyone on Wards resume then compare him to Dawson.. Athletic, intelligent, versatlie boxer! Although Kovalev is far less fragile & way more complete.

A bigger & better Sergio Martinez

If that is true Ward could be in for big trouble big Chad Dawson caused Ward some problems until the inevitable draining effect took the toll on his body.

I find it hard to find someone to compare Kovalev with right now absolutely in no way is he a Carl Froch or Kessler type of guy...
Kovalev is very meticulous about what he does doesn't really waste a shot maybe a tiny little bit like a Vitali Klitschko but a version of him that is more crisp and technically superior on what he does no dig on Vitali nobody would have beat Vitali If it wasn't for unfortunate injuries.