Why do some posters on boxing forums..

[Kagami Taiga]

The better question is why being compared to Pavlik and Froch is such a bad thing. In there primes those are two fighters i think highly of. I dont think either are as good as Kovalev per se, but i dont think either are as good as Ward either. I dont see next to anyone demaning Kovalev tho. Ward gets crapped on on this site wayyyyyy more and its really not even close. The whining has to stop.

[The Tribe]

foh i stand by that shh. kovolov is a little bit more skillful than frock and pavlik but he aint got the natural rhythm to hang with a seasoned cat like Ward.

wont even be close. remember the last time a robot tried that **** against a slick american?



ward about to pepper that ass for all that racist ass **** he been talking.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

as if being compared to Froch is a insult smh or even pavlik.

You dudes DKSAB

[Bardock]

Ward is going to school Kovalev bad. Dude is going to look like a lost puppy in there

[bojangles1987]

That's what i said. Can't you read? I said struggled to adapt to BOXERS... Ward, Taylor, Groves & Dirrell! I wouldn't say they were a masterclass in adaptation. He slugged it out & was fortunate they had (the latter three) plastic mandibles & in Groves case poor pacing issues too! I saw no real adaptation.. I just saw them fighters get tired with pressure & Frochs strong constitution & heart overcoming.

Froch was predictable & ponder-some. No shame in that as many great fighters are but don't make him out to be great adaptor in fights now too. He looked the exact same in the Kessler rematch as he did first time round. Difference was Kessler was further faded.

He didn't struggle to adapt to Ward, Taylor, or Groves at all. He adjusted and came on strong to stop both Taylor and Groves, and came on late against Ward. You don't do that consistently against boxers if you don't know how to adjust. Dirrell is the only time he didn't fight better in the second half of the fight than the first.

You just seem intent on giving Froch no credit for what he did in those fights. He didn't just plod ahead until they were tired and then have success.

[HEND]

All the Ward fanboys pretending to be a fan of Froch:



RE: The bold statement.. You wanna bet your account that Kovalev does better against Ward than Froch?

I don't bet on it cause as I said I believe they are around the same level but since Kovalev is one size bigger then Froch, this will be Ward's best win up to date. Plus this can be easily a subjective, relative thing what you can't really measure only if it's so obvious...

I don't pretend I'm a Froch fan btw I'm jut speaking facts.
Froch is a more proven fighter than Kovalev and that's a fact nothing less.
But I know... the actual flavor of the month is always better than the old one... It's not your fault really, people just like that usually... tend to overvalue the less proven, undefeated fighters.

Let's see those Froch - Kovalev comparisons after the 19th of November. Maybe Kovalev will do better than Froch but I think he will do about the same (or at least not significantly better) which means winning 3-4 rounds top. Not because he would be a bad fighter, I just can't see him pulling out a plan B once Ward figures him out. Technically sound =/= creative and good improviser. He admittedly trains to one plan only, he admittedly doesn't watch tapes, etc... Against 90+% of the fighters in his weightclass that's enough for him, against Ward it won't be.
And I think Ward will figure him out after a few rounds.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

I'm sorry. Exactly where did i call Froch a bum? I have actually said i like Froch & he is a great champion in this thread you tool LOL

I was paraphrasing. It was years ago & i read many derogatory comments towards Froch even pre Taylor on boxing forums. Go find them yourself. I don't care if you think that rubbish! Now back to the post i supposedly ducked & to which you never responded to, just jumped in on another conversation. I'll remind you:

Go in the search bar and quote some of the comments, stop freestyling your agenda. This whole thread stinks of your agenda.

As I said before I'm the only person on NSB that made a thread about Froch being a better win than Kovalev.

[1g5a22]

Go in the search bar and quote some of the comments, stop freestyling your agenda. This whole thread stinks of your agenda.

As I said before I'm the only person on NSB that made a thread about Froch being a better win than Kovalev.

Again you pulled me up on supposedly ducking a mundane & trivial post you made yet when i respond you don't want to engage in the response & piggy back another response i made to someone else! Are you a bit dense or something? Now i asked you WHEN exactly did i call Froch a bum? I have stated long before you entered the thread that he was a great champion. I also asked you:

Froch is not a better win than Kovalev because Froch lost to Kessler. He arguably lost to Dirrell & looked far more beatable in numerous fights. Westermam, Taylor & Groves etc..

Now show me Kovalev getting schooled by a Groves or a Taylor or a Dirrell? Show me Kovalev getting bashed around by a Westerman or a Kessler? Show me Kovalev looking cluleless against boxers like Ward or Hopkins?

Show me AL these examples of Kovalev consistently struggling though-out his career? Show me Kovalev losing 25 rounds? Show me Kovalev losing 15 rounds to B/C level boxers like Westerman, Charles Adamu or Magee?

As for me reading numerous derogatory comments towards Froch even pre Taylor on boxing forums. I don't care if you think that rubbish! Or i am making it up. I remember many. I can't remember specific threads though.

These leading up to Dirrell has comments suggesting Froch is a hype job, an embarrassment to British coaches, poor technically, a B level fighter & the worst boxer in the tournament who even Abraham would beat:

//krikya360.com/forums/sh...ictions&page=5

//krikya360.com/forums/sh...ictions&page=7

I can't even be arsed to find the pre Taylor ones or Ward ones. Go find the threads yourself (as i am sure there are some & we can look through them together & read how everyone back then really rated Froch & not a bad word was ever said about his technique or ability LOL)

[1g5a22]

The better question is why being compared to Pavlik and Froch is such a bad thing. In there primes those are two fighters i think highly of. I dont think either are as good as Kovalev per se, but i dont think either are as good as Ward either. I dont see next to anyone demaning Kovalev tho. Ward gets crapped on on this site wayyyyyy more and its really not even close. The whining has to stop.

It would not be a bad thing if it were true. I already stated there is no shame in it! However they are not similar style fighters. Pavlik was exposed as much too limited a thoroughbred by Hopkins. Slow, predictable and easy for Hopkins to neutralize. Kovalev is a much more complete boxer!

[1g5a22]

I don't bet on it cause as I said I believe they are around the same level but since Kovalev is one size bigger then Froch, this will be Ward's best win up to date. Plus this can be easily a subjective, relative thing what you can't really measure only if it's so obvious...

I don't pretend I'm a Froch fan btw I'm jut speaking facts.
Froch is a more proven fighter than Kovalev and that's a fact nothing less.
But I know... the actual flavor of the month is always better than the old one... It's not your fault really, people just like that usually... tend to overvalue the less proven, undefeated fighters.

Let's see those Froch - Kovalev comparisons after the 19th of November. Maybe Kovalev will do better than Froch but I think he will do about the same (or at least not significantly better) which means winning 3-4 rounds top. Not because he would be a bad fighter, I just can't see him pulling out a plan B once Ward figures him out. Technically sound =/= creative and good improviser. He admittedly trains to one plan only, he admittedly doesn't watch tapes, etc... Against 90+% of the fighters in his weightclass that's enough for him, against Ward it won't be.
And I think Ward will figure him out after a few rounds.

I didn't think you would. You are afraid to back up your own words with an action that would mean you truly believe what you are saying.

I am willing to, you are not. Speaks volumes.