Is it Wilder hate or do people actually think Povetkin has a chance?

[Boxfan83]

But he's not the "clear favorite" with the oddsmakers. The odds you can find have Wilder at -250

I think I shouldve posted something of this nature with my original post. I really dont see how anyone would have Povetkin a favorite. I dont think its by coincidence the oddsmakers have Wilder as favorite because I think most see things as u and I do.

[soul_survivor]

I really dont see how Povetkin has more of a punchers chance against Wilder. I will give Povetkin credit and say he may last 12 because hes a tough guy but I dont see how Povetkin has a chance. Once Wilder gets his range and timing on point, itll be target practice. So with that said, do people really think Povetkin has a good chance or are they passing around the hatorade?

#bombzquad

I don't know about others but I think Povetkin beats Wilder, not just because Pov is starting to hit hard but because he is by far the superior boxer. The Wilder/Spzilka fight did it for me (before that I was maybe 51/49 for Povetkin) but if Wilder keeps on fighting with that lazy lead hand, leaning straight back and not knowing where his feet are, he will get caught repeatedly.

That's not good.

Now, Wilder is very much a contender and someone who is a work in progress, so may be he improves before the Povetkin fight (if it ever happens). Maybe he locks himself in a gym for 12 straight weeks and works on sorting out his feet and hands. It's not unlikely, he has the time and age to improve but I doubt it.

If Spzilka can win rounds of Wilder and in my opinion, be winning the fight, Povetkin do far better.

[Redd Foxx]

Povetkin is, formulaicly, the worst opponent for Deontay. Wilder's defense consists of leaning back and throwing his hands in the air. Not good against a guy who can rush in like Povetkin. Wilder also has serious balance issues. I think Wilder has a much, much better chance against Fury as Tyson lacks the movement and power to threaten him. Wilder will land on Fury and vice versa. Shot for shot, Wilder wins that exchange and Tyson will fall, no doubt.

Povetkin and Ortiz are serious problems for Deontay though. He needs to find the stability he exhibited in the Stiverne fight. If he keeps a rangey jab and 1+2 he might be able to wear them down enough to make it through those fights.

[Scipio2009]

I think the size difference is just to much and I dont see povetkin having Holyfield or Tyson like head movement to get in on the inside. I dont doubt Povetkins skill, but I think his size would suit him better at cruiser weight.

The man is a solid 230lbs, so the notion that he's going to cut down 30lbs and compete at cruiserweight is silly.

The fact that Povetkin is coming to the table with skills has me intrigued about the fight though.

[boxinghead530]

I really dont see how Povetkin has more of a punchers chance against Wilder. I will give Povetkin credit and say he may last 12 because hes a tough guy but I dont see how Povetkin has a chance. Once Wilder gets his range and timing on point, itll be target practice. So with that said, do people really think Povetkin has a good chance or are they passing around the hatorade?

#bombzquad

No haterade at all. I think Povetkin has a legit and solid chance at beating Wilder. Povetkin is more skillful and has better boxing fundamentals than Wilders. He has a very solid chin. He is experienced and has beaten everyone outside of Wlad. And to top it off the dude has power.

The thing I think will hurt Povetkin when fighting Wilder is Wilders size/height and his awkward ranginess. If Povetkin is able to close the gap and get close to Wilder to get his shots off then he has an amazing chance to beat him. If Wilder keeps him on the outside and uses his rangy crude skills then he will prolly take it.

I look at this fight as a very close one with IMO Wilder taking it. But I think Povetkin has the skills, fundamentals, power and experience to be successful.

[NaijaD]

I really don't know what people see in Wilder, I found myself cringing and shaking my head on Saturday night when he was wildly missing with those attempted counter right hands off the ropes. He is tall and has the length but he doesn't use it effectively, you can see his jab coming a mile away.

Wilder just doesn't look like quality fighter right now and its hard to picture him beating Povetkin after what I saw on Saturday, Povetkin isn't that special either but he's a real step up for Wilder in all honesty.

I have to favour Povetkin based on what I've seen from both, I hope Wilder comes through cause I am dying to see him and Fury get it on.

[removed]

Fury vs Wilder would be a mismatch, it would be Froch-Bute all over again. There's a good reason why Wilder has been fed bums his entire career, there's a reason why's never been put in against any kind of legitimate threat. He's a hype job, a phony, a fake. He knows it, his team knows it. He's been carefully marketed to fill a gap for a big punching American heavyweight, and his team are aiming to make as much $$ out of him as possible before he gets exposed.

[Dean_Razorback]

Why do people continue to say Wilder is going to duck this guy. Povetkin is his Madatory, I don't believe the WBC will allow a 4th Voluntary and people are quick to forget Povetkin passed on the last fight to get in with Wach. I don't see Wilder giving up the belt, but unfortunately I can see a Martin/Wilder fight: in order to set up a unification of all four major titles in a Wilder/Fury(orKlitchko).

you are right. we haven't seen a PBC guy drop a belt to avoid a mandatory challenger before

[Boxfan83]

Fair enough, lol.

I disagree about Wilder beating Fury, I just don't see it. Talent wise, Fury then Ortiz are the 1-2 right now for me. Wilder is a fun fighter to watch but I see him paying for all his flaws when he steps up.

lol, boxfan83 ducks no poster hahaha

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I like Wilder and I can tell you Povetkin wins by KO. The only reason Wlad beat him is because Pabon allowed Wlad to lean on and hold Povetkin whenever he closed the distance. Wilder doesn't hold he covers up. This will be his downfall.

I think this pretty much sums it up. Szpilka is not in Povetkin's league at all and would have been beaten down. He's a guy who used good movement to throw Wilder off(which he did much too easily for a heavyweight champ), but when it came to his punches, they weren't there. he didn't throw enough and didn't pull the trigger many times when Wilder looked befuddled and totally off-balance. Povetkin wiltep in and connect on Wilder when he gets off balance and Wilder doesn't hold enough to keep those punches from reigning in. I'm glad Wilder doesn't hold to be honest. Clinching gets very old very quick and as a Wlad fan, I have to say the Povetkin fight was atrocious and the Russian got robbed of a fair fight at least. I see Wilder probably going for the KO early, but I don't see him getting it. Povetkin will be ready for that and as the fight wears on, hell land on Wilder and I don't see Wilder standing up to his punches for very long. He's definitely in no position to be the favorite just because he knocked out a guy with one punch. Power is great but it is far from everything. Povetkin is more skilled, more experienced, with the better balance. For Wilder to be the favorite in this fight, is ridiculous, but hopefully for posts like this, it will be a learning experience.