Canelo Is Not a Middleweight!

[sparkman0811]

He's lineal ring and wbc at 160. Yet he should have time to acclimate to 160? Last I checked..all this cw business at 155 was that time. He's BEEN had his time. It's **** or get off the pot time, the excuses are pathetic.

You think that because he fought Cotto, that it implies Canelo is ready for the big dogs at 160? Cotto is a junior middleweight. You think Cotto will keep fighting at 160 after all of this? Of course not. He was never a middleweight to begin with. When you call Canelo lineal champ at 160, it has no weight behind it. Since, both Canelo and Cotto were paper champions at 160. Let Canelo vacate if not ready for GGG, but the pressure from fans for Canelo to fight GGG right now, is not reasonable, since Canelo has never even fought a damn middleweight in his life, let alone the top dog at that weight class. What is unreasonable about letting him fight 2-3 true middleweights before stepping to the big dog? Sounds to me like people only want one outcome for this fight.

[kiaba360]

No, he needs to move up to 160. He needs to weigh in close 19-160, gain a little more mass. No catch-weights, let his guys come in at 160 limit. 2-3 fights against decent/good true middleweights, then GGG. Again, vacate WBC right now, only honorable thing to do if he's not ready for GGG.

I could live with that. Canelo vs. Heiland/Magomedov/Soro/Lemieux and then GGG.

[sparkman0811]

I just wonder why Canelo is a bit sceptical about whether he can perform at 160, why is he so worried that he cant do the business at 160, or that he can beat everyone just not GGG?
Not every fighter has a warm up fight at that weight before jumping in. Many people step up and just do the business if you are good enough you are big enough.
That fight people want to see now, and it shouldn't take a CW to get it on. If Canelo loses, he loses just like they all did to GGG. If Canelo doesn't disgrace himself and does OK, but thinks if he campaigns at 160 and gets better and better maybe he can rematch GGG and have another go.

Yes, he needs to start coming in near the limit and also fight strong solid middleweights. Although, regarding transitioning into a new division, I don't know if it is that common to come in and fight the top dog in that division. You have cases where a guy comes into the division, but fights a paper champion to get an easy win (Broner-Malignaggi). I can understand why Canelo is hesitant to fight GGG at 160, if he thinks GGG might have some advantages in that fight. I am fine with letting Canelo fight 2-3 fights against good 160 pounders, then GGG. If he needs to vacate, so be it.

[Chuckguy]

You dumb b*tch, show me a true middleweight who comes in at 155 just for kicks and giggles. True middleweights come in close to the upper limit of the weight class, 159-160. Try making a welterweight come down to 141. If you can make 141 for a 147 fight, you're probably not ready to fight the big dogs who come in at 147. I can tell you've never fought a boxing match in your life.

Show me a JMW that comes in at 155? I s he isn't a ME or JMW? Show me your proof dumb az!
How me another 155 lber that blows up to LHW?

[El-blanco]

HAHAHAHA you ****ing idiot

None of them drop to 155 because that's not a division
, how the hell would we know who can make 155?

If you can't make 154 you fight as a middleweight. Canelo just doesn't have the talent. You know it, you've seen him fight.

That says it all. I can't comprehend why people are acting like 155 isn't middleweight.

[oscar9992]

You are right. He can easily fight Supermiddleweights and lightheavyweights.

[boliodogs]

I don't know what every top middleweight can get down to but some of them can probably fight at 155. GGG says he can make 154 for Mayweather. One thing is for sure in my mind. Canelo is not naturally a 20 pounds bigger fighter than Cotto as many Cotto fans have tried to say to explain why Canelo beat Cotto. Canelo has repeatedly made 155 and come into the ring strong. If Cotto is really 20 pounds smaller than Canelo then Cotto should be able to weigh in at 135 and come into the ring strong. Cotto can no longer make 147 comfortably and 150 is the lightest weight Cotto can weigh in at and still be strong. This means Canelo is about 5 pounds bigger than Cotto naturally and not 20 pounds bigger as some are saying..

[El-blanco]

You are right. He can easily fight Supermiddleweights and lightheavyweights.

got em.

[PeterinMI]

Sorry but this is one of the worst thought out arguments I have ever seen.

1. If you hold a middle weight strap you can't claim you need to test the waters.
2. Catch weights are one thing but you can't mandate a mandatory challenger for your strap do a catch weight.
3. Conelo is HUGE. He walks around at light heavy or above. He has a huge frame as well.

I get it. He wants that advantage. Got it. Just don't do it with a mandatory title defense. That degrades the entire sport amd is straight up BS.

Show me a middleweight who can make 155.

I don't buy this "Canelo is bigger" argument. If Canelo is bigger, then GGG shouldn't have a problem making 155, since the bigger guy can make that weight.

Not defending the catchweight bull****. But, let Canelo come up to true 160 first, fight some middleweights, test the waters, then fight GGG.

GGG only calls out small dudes. 160 is weak, not impressed with his opposition at all. I'm okay with Canelo fight, but let him acclimate to division first, never even fought at 160 or fought a true middleweight, yet.

[PeterinMI]

Look, this is pure BS as well. Conelo can come down easier partly because of youth. Cotto could still make Welter I believe. No question Conelo comes in fight night north of the SMW limit.

I don't know what every top middleweight can get down to but some of them can probably fight at 155. GGG says he can make 154 for Mayweather. One thing is for sure in my mind. Canelo is not naturally a 20 pounds bigger fighter than Cotto as many Cotto fans have tried to say to explain why Canelo beat Cotto. Canelo has repeatedly made 155 and come into the ring strong. If Cotto is really 20 pounds smaller than Canelo then Cotto should be able to weigh in at 135 and come into the ring strong. Cotto can no longer make 147 comfortably and 150 is the lightest weight Cotto can weigh in at and still be strong. This means Canelo is about 5 pounds bigger than Cotto naturally and not 20 pounds bigger as some are saying..