Is it me or do 90% of the PBC fights mean nothing?

[HURTFEELINGS]

PBC started this year. Fighters need to build. Not everyone knows who the fighters are so the big fights you crave wont be big and get horrible ratings and youll continue your ranting.

We have gotten good fights this year already. I have no complaints.

You guys really think it was better before dont you?

BULLSEYE! They think that getting to watch current champions facing ex champions is better than NO boxing. Youre not really a boxing "FAN". BKB can use your viewership.

[El-blanco]

PBC started this year. Fighters need to build. Not everyone knows who the fighters are so the big fights you crave wont be big and get horrible ratings and youll continue your ranting.

We have gotten good fights this year already. I have no complaints.

You guys really think it was better before dont you?

You build guys by having them in interesting or meaningful fights. Most pbc fights are neither, you think people will care or be interested in Garcia after last night? To make this thing work they needed to come out the gates sprinting instead they are taking a brisk walk. They either made a gross miscalculation or haymon received too much credit for some good matches a few years ago and isn't some great boxing architect. Hbo puts on just as many meaningless fights but their presentation, and usual knockout endings, salvage it.

[Deevel916]

Last night gave us another name.

Garcia, khan, porter, and thurman have all emerged. Add in hearn works with PBC we get brook. Pieces are being placed.

Patience is a virtue

And outside of hardcore fans, nobody gives a shiet about any of these guys. PBC is doing nothing to capture the casual boxing fans interest.

[mikinoki]

Seriously, almost all the PBC fights are like last nights card where there is a clear favorite against a older washed up veteran with a name who realistically has no shot. Or a name vs a straight up bum.
Sure, we get the occasional Porter vs Broner and Mares vs LSC but most of these fights end up as we think and they lead to nothing. What does Thurman beating Collazzo lead to? Garcia beating Paulie? Who cares, we expected those things to happen and it's not like it builds any other fights up with those victories.
I'm happy there is more boxing on tv but most of these cards are just "stay busy" type fights and lead to nothing...

They've been around for a couple of months so....

[asgarth]

Let's go through their schedule:

March:
Thurman/Ghost - meaningful
Broner/Molina - stay-busy
Mares/Santa Reyes - stay-busy

-Berto/Lopez - crossroads fight
-Porter/Bone - stay-busy
-Arreola/Harper - stay-busy

April:
-Stevenson/Bika - stay-busy (though Bika is a notable name)
* Bika was rated in another weight class
-Garcia/Peterson - meaningful
-Lee/Quillin - meaningful
-Dirrell/Jack - meaningful
-Jacobs/Truax - kinda meaningful
-Garcia/Stevenson - stay-busy

May:
-Figueroa/Burns - stay-busy (though Burns is notable)
-Kameda/McDonnell - meaningful

-Dirrell/DeGale - meaningful
-Rodriguez/Baker - stay-busy

-Khan/Algeri - meaningful (though better match-ups could be made)
-Fortuna/Vasquez - meaningful

June:
-Guerrero/Martinez - stay-busy

-Lara/Rodriguez - stay-busy
-Beterbiev/Johnson - stay-busy

-Broner/Porter - meaningful
-Spence/Lo Greco - showcase (ok opponent, though Lo Greco took it on short notice)

-Barthelemy/DeMarco - stay-busy
-Vasquez/Omotoso - kinda meaningful (showcase for Vasquez against decent opponent)

July:
-Thurman/Collazo - stay-busy
-Harrison/Nelson - kinda meaningful

-Frampton/Gonzalez - stay-busy/showcase to new audience
-Arreola/Kassi - stay-busy

-Shumenov/Flores - kinda meaningful (it was for an interim title)
-Shimmel/Thomas - kinda meaningful (two undefeated prospects)

August:
-Garcia/Malignaggi - stay-busy/showcase @ new weight
-Jacobs/Mora - kinda meaningful
-Colon/Finney - showcase

-Payano/Warren - meaningful (WBA/IBO title fight)

-Bute/Di Luisa - stay-busy
-Alvarez/Prieto - kinda meaningful (both undefeated, Alvarez is high in the rankings)

-Santa Cruz/Mares - meaningful
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38 bouts, and 18 of them were stay-busy/showcase fights imo. I don't have to like or care about every match-up, but that doesn't automatically mean they're insignificant.

nice breakdown, I added fights between top10 contenders in bold, but Im not sure about every fight

[FukkMargarito]

the warren fight tonight could be interesting

I can't wait. I just wish it was on tv so I could record it instead of watching on my phone during true detective.

[FukkMargarito]

Most of the fights that turn out to be the most competitive and entertaining, are the ones no one expects to be so and are almost always undercard fights. They are accidents, pure and simple.

And it is difficult to build stars when all the fighters are treated the same and not permitted to make their proper ring entrances with their own music and entourage, carrying their title belts high and proud. Floyd would not look very intimidating if he entered the ring alone after dancing down a catwalk from the WWE style stage. He would look like a fool. And probably feel like one as well.

This is exactly what I hate about pbc. It's really lame making them all do the same boring entrance with the same horrible music. I'm so glad Floyd is doing ppv and not regular TV. Also pbc goes to commercial during some of the most interesting times in the corner which sucks. I don't like how controlled pbc is, and the muting during that huge punch last night was really disappointing. It's live TV don't beep cuss words from the crowd.

[SplitSecond]

To make things worse they are all boring.

[Fetta]

And outside of hardcore fans, nobody gives a shiet about any of these guys. PBC is doing nothing to capture the casual boxing fans interest.

Up to fighters to sell themselves not promoters telling us who to like. They get the more money because of this.

Fighters must first become known before the matchups should happen. No one knows these guys so wont matter jusr yet. To us yes but to casuals no.

You guys are follows of the ratings so how is this hard to believe. Hell i dont care about ratings but even i understand this.

Big fight, showcase, big fight/name seems to be formula. Old school.

Look at last night. We ob NSB knew paulie didnt have it anymore but hoped. But look at crowd, they didnt care.

Big boys are emerging. Pieces being placed.

[glenn mcrory]

With PBC its seems less like they are slowly "building" guys and more like they are holding them back for their own good.

**** like Brook-Porter and Lomachenko-Russell scared Haymon back to reality, he forgot the cans he is trying to sell aren't very good, got fooled by his own illusions, and got dropped back down to earth real quick.

Two "competitive" fights involving two of his better fighters that turned into drubbings.

Haymon is essentially playing chess with only pawns while everyone else is playing with bishops, queens and kings. You ain't making any moves like that.