"I wanted Sergio but it was not a fight that appealed to my fans..." ~ Canelo

[ElMeroChingon]

The Peasant just got destroyed with this one.

Cotto fans should be the last ones talking about "ducks".

and also maravillas response to canelo "only at 160 on hbo" knowing canelo had a deal with showtime...

SOLO PELEAREMOS CON CANELO EN 160 Y POR HBO SI NO, NO VA (TEAM SERGIO MARTINEZ)

LMAO, this kid was going through all the Canelo videos on ESNEWS, and still didn't quite get it right.

[boliodogs]

This was fun. Throw a Canelo nugget on the ground, and watch them come running for their rations.


"But Nelo is 155lbs and so what if he is 174lbs on fight night. He is too little to fight GGG @ 160 doe. Shame that Nelo and GGG are not the same size doe..."



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I told you before,you ignorant peasant that doe has only one meaning and that is a female deer. The word that means what you mistakenly think doe means is THOUGH. Get a dictionary and keep it beside you when you post here. It will explain to you what different words mean and how to spell them. So you think it's very funny to trash Canelo. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! But somehow you don't think it's funny to trash that moon walking, back peddling, running, knee taking, GGG ducking Cotto. Enjoy yourself while you can funny boy. When Canelo chews up Cotto and spits out the pieces you will have to quit this board since apparently the only reason you joined was to praise Cotto and trash Canelo and GGG.

[sparkman0811]

Yo Nelo kids, you should write your local hero and express yourselves. Tell Nelo how badly you wanted Martinez and how he miscalculated your insane desire to see Canelo V Martinez back then.


If only you Nelo Kids were more vocal, Saul would have given you what you asked for. Damn it!

Keep hating on Canelo, putita. Cotto gets destroyed by GGG & Canelo. Nah, but Cotto is busy fighting Geale and Rodriguez's of the world...but who has GGG fought, doe? Stay riding that eyebrow plucking f*got, just like the rest of them. Taking knees is an artform.

Miranomas, que chulada...

[Skilled Nation]

The cat may lack defense and ring IQ but he tries his best I give him that, y'all need to lay off him a bit.

[sicko]

You always think you're making these amazing points, when you're not. When you did, I gave you your props. Most big fights (that attract casuals) are usually between two draws. Mayweather and Pacquiao were the two biggest draws in the sport for the last decade or so (still are). Cotto and Canelo also have a strong following. GGG is slowly but surely getting more popular after every fight. That's why people (not just hardcore fans) want to watch these fights. Say Andrade was #1 at 154 but he wasn't a big draw, do you think Canelo vs Andrade would be a big fight? NO, it would just as big as Canelo vs Kirkland or Canelo vs Lara/Angulo. Unless those are big fights in your mind.
In fact, in your first post you didn't even mention anything about big fights.
You said, "Avoiding styles is only a postponement for failure in the long run because you will have to get in with a stick and move type of guy again eventually. You won't be able to spend your entire career fighting flat footed sluggers and expect people to consider you "GREAT". A truly great fighter can find a way to defeat ALL STYLES not just flat footed face first Brawlers like Angulo and Kirkland".
In that post you're basically implying that Canelo avoids slick fighters for brawlers. Where do you mention anything about big fights? If a slick fighter arises and becomes a draw in a few years, then I'm sure Canelo will welcome it. For now, what slick fighter at 154/160 (besides Mayweather) is a big draw?
Shoot Canelo already fought Trout and Lara (neither is a big draw, big mega fights btw-BIG they were indeed), so he's shown that he's willing to fight different styles. I don't see him avoiding these slick fighters.

I know you were just responding to the original poster, who posted a video where Canelo said "Sergio likes to hit and not get hit..." In other words, Sergio is a professional boxer...". So basically implying that Canelo will avoid fighters that try the "hit and not get hit" style. But think about when that video was made, 2012, since then Canelo has fought Trout, Mayweather and Lara. So although he said that he still ended up fighting slick fighters, did he not?

You probably don't understand Spanish but someone posted an article from October 2012, just two months after the video, where he said he wanted Martinez, Cotto or Mayweather (two of those are "slick" fighters). So even though he said in the video that his team advised him to avoid those fighters (hit and not get hit style), Canelo still wanted them.

NO, you just like debating over every little thing like you're trying to disprove points that you THINK I'm trying to make when that is not the case. Boxers Today and their fans want to dictate boxing and change the way things and make it convenient for certain fighters. I notice this on this forum especially! Shame on ME for wanting the best fighters to fight the BEST REGARDLESS OF STYLES! Credit to Canelo for fighting Lara and Mayweather, maybe fighting Martinez would have better prepared him for Mayweather and Lara

Which goes back to me posting about fighters "Putting Off Fighting VS Certain Styles".

I've see this with the Great Chavez Sr in which he avoided certain styles until he couldn't avoid it anymore and when he finally stepped in with Meldrick Taylor, Pernell Whittaker and Frankie Randall, it was clear to all why he wasn't taking those fights sooner.

The Criteria for greatness is not going to change in the next ERA, it is not going to be about how exciting your fights was it is going to be about Did you fight the best and beat the best in your ERA.

This "style" of fight stuff is just an EXCUSE!

[HI-TECH Boxing]

NO, you just like debating over every little thing like you're trying to disprove points that you THINK I'm trying to make when that is not the case. Boxers Today and their fans want to dictate boxing and change the way things and make it convenient for certain fighters. I notice this on this forum especially! Shame on ME for wanting the best fighters to fight the BEST REGARDLESS OF STYLES! Credit to Canelo for fighting Lara and Mayweather, maybe fighting Martinez would have better prepared him for Mayweather and Lara

Which goes back to me posting about fighters "Putting Off Fighting VS Certain Styles".

I've see this with the Great Chavez Sr in which he avoided certain styles until he couldn't avoid it anymore and when he finally stepped in with Meldrick Taylor, Pernell Whittaker and Frankie Randall, it was clear to all why he wasn't taking those fights sooner.

The Criteria for greatness is not going to change in the next ERA, it is not going to be about how exciting your fights was it is going to be about Did you fight the best and beat the best in your ERA.

This "style" of fight stuff is just an EXCUSE!

What point are you trying to make then? You're original post had nothing to do with the thread. All I read was you trying to discredit Canelo, implying that he wouldn't fight any slick fighters (When he has!).
I actually hit you with some facts and you're just coming here trying to say things that were not even part of the argument in the first place. You keep switching everything up. First it was Canelo not wanting to fight slick fighters, then it was big fights and now it's about styles.
I want to see big fights as well!! But again the point you're trying to make does not make any sense, because it keeps switching. I mean, what's the purpose? I originally replied to you to show that Canelo has indeed faced slick fighters (remember that was you're original post).

So what you're basically saying is that the top guys are going to avoid certain type of style (slick?). Canelo sure hasn't avoided many of them, who has he avoided? I remember people saying he was ducking Trout, then fought him. Soon after the Mayweather fight, he was all of the sudden avoiding Lara, he fought him almost immediately. People were trying to make it sound like Canelo was avoiding Lara for years, when the talks for that fight didn't start until after the Mayweather fight (before Mayweather he was supposedly avoiding Trout). Who do you want him to face? I mean you can't expect him to fight slick fighters all of the time (What other fighters are there that are ACTUALLY realistic?) Who do you want GGG to face? (Also a reminder, most of these "slick" fighters are with Haymon, so probably won't happen due to obvious reasons). Who else is out there?

Can you blame Canelo for chasing Cotto right now, when it's one of the biggest fights that can get made. Big money for both. Canelo is 24 years old, how do you know he will avoid certain styles in the future? When we haven't seen the future (because in the past he has faced them). Like I said previously, you also have to keep in mind the politics in boxing (we don't like them but they are there!). For example, fans can keep saying that GGG is avoiding Lara. But the first thing to remember is that Lara is with Haymon, who doesn't associate himself with HBO!! (don't bring up Mayweather/Pacquiao because that fight was big money, that's why they worked together). What other slick fighter is there at 154/160 (where Canelo and GGG currently fight in) for them to fight that CAN actually get made.

I complimented you before telling you that I could tell you're a smart poster, but I can't see you're purpose here, man. We just have to wait and see if Canelo avoids slick fighters in the future, for now what we do know is the past and the past shows that as long as the fight can get made, he's willing to fight these tough match ups.

It's not Canelo's or GGG's fault that politics will get involved with some of these match-ups.

[icha]

This was fun. Throw a Canelo nugget on the ground, and watch them come running for their rations.
"But Nelo is 155lbs and so what if he is 174lbs on fight night. He is too little to fight GGG @ 160 doe. Shame that Nelo and GGG are not the same size doe..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

lol, you had to change the topic on your own thread after being embarrassed...
just let it go, nothing wrong with taking a knee once in a while...
but, but, canelo ducked sergio doe...

[bigjavi973]

Cant wait till canelo crushes your boy. it will be like may 2nd but this time there wont be excuses, cotto is getting koed.

Canelol has only been chin checked once by cotto's older brother. Cotto will finish the job and avenge his brother's loss.

[icha]

Canelol has only been chin checked once by cotto's older brother. Cotto will finish the job and avenge his brother's loss.

too bad cotto wont be fighting the teen version of canelo...

[bigjavi973]

Yeah because Lara had Canelo running like a chicken with its head cut off and Trout made Canelo do the stanky leg, .

"But you know...blak iz buetifull mah brutha!"

-El Campesino

reported. gettin tired of all these racist asswhipes really.