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Originally posted by Marvellous1 View PostSorry, but I don't brand fighters "cheaters" without proof, and doing it because they beat you favowit boxer in da whole wide world (especially after someone else did the same thing to Pacquiao without proof), is kinda weak. Marquez landed the perfect punch at the perfect time and fought a more aggressive fight to do it. Against Mayweather, he could only land 48 times in 12 rounds which was nothing to do with weight- which was my point all along.
I just call it like I see it, man. I am an honest boxing fanatic. I am not a fanboy. Anyone with eyes can see how Marquez won the 4th fight. It was by POWER. PERIOD. Anyway, I guess you think Marquez knocking Alvarado almost completely out of the opposite side of the ring, was just his greatness as well, ey? Now, how did he do that? Alvarado was a full fledged Junior Middleweight that night.
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostI just call it like I see it, man. I am an honest boxing fanatic. I am not a fanboy. Anyone with eyes can see how Marquez won the 4th fight. It was by POWER. PERIOD. Anyway, I guess you think Marquez knocking Alvarado almost completely out of the opposite side of the ring, was just his greatness as well, ey? Now, how did he do that? Alvarado was a full fledged Junior Middleweight that night.
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Originally posted by mrjax View PostMaquez has always had power. He has won 56 fights with 40 of them coming from KO.
He has? So, he was always able to KO an opponent with one punch? Since when? All of the PED allegations about Manny, started by Floyd's hateful self but none toward the new found power of Marquez. Hmmm.....Has Manny ever done that to an opponent bigger than himself, like Marquez did? Did Manny's arms, shoulder's, neck, and back get bigger? My point exactly. I am not a bogus fan. I just call it like I see it. I make very good points.
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostHe has? So, he was always able to KO an opponent with one punch? Since when? All of the PED allegations about Manny, started by Floyd's hateful self but none toward the new found power of Marquez. Hmmm.....Has Manny ever done that to an opponent bigger than himself, like Marquez did? Did Manny's arms, shoulder's, neck, and back get bigger? My point exactly. I am not a bogus fan. I just call it like I see it. I make very good points.
There was also the fact that was the perfect punch on a guy who was leaning in with his punch. My 10 year old son would have been able to knock him out with that. It was the perfect storm to get oneself knocked out.
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Originally posted by mrjax View PostThose are good points, but neglect the fact that Manny has turned down mandatory blood tests. Bob Arum said it was because he (Arum) did not understand blood testing. One of the top managers in the world did not understand testing? That is su****ious.
There was also the fact that was the perfect punch on a guy who was leaning in with his punch. My 10 year old son would have been able to knock him out with that. It was the perfect storm to get oneself knocked out.
I believe that Manny is just a special fighter who comes once a lifetime. He is Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran, and Ray Leonard. Nothing on him physically suggests that he was ever on PEDS. If he was, something about his body or performance would've changed. It's common sense. Manny has always had killer stamina, a natural punch, superhuman like speed of hand and foot. Now, what has changed about these facts since one man named Floyd started accusing him of PED usage? Manny's body looks EXACTLY the same. His performance is identical as well. You all have no proof. However, you do have proof with Marquez. We do have reasons to suspect Floyd of possible usage leading into this fight. He has no reason to be affiliated with Memo or Ariza. For what? He is bigger than ever before, why???? The USADA took 4 tubes of blood from Manny the other day and couldn't spar, because he was tired. Now, how many tubes did this tainted agency take from Floyd? Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's Floyd who is the cheat? Maybe it's Floyd who is jealous of Manny's success and accomplishments in the sport of boxing?
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Originally posted by Don Mac View Postmany people will be surprised with Floyd's punching power in this fight; judging by new pics his arms are way bigger than previous fights, he's def training for power. And we've seen when he wants to he can hit very hard. Anyone who says otherwise is in some kind of denial, with all the pillow punch BS
He's always had power - many people knew that from his amateur days, but he's never had to rely on it as he was the supreme athlete in the ring. Now he needs to use it more, its a bit like the latter part of Ali's career
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Man people are pathetic. All I can say is I don't recall Marquez having a problem with any kind of drug testing demands or demanding cut off dates. The worst thing I could do if I want to convince people I'm clean is demand a cut off date for testing. Anyhow I can't wait to hear the excuses when Mayweather dominates this guy.
Excuse #1 Floyd ran the whole fight and didn't stand toe to toe.
Excuse #2 Those Ariza shakes really helped
Excuse #3 He paid those judges well
Excuse #4 He paid the ref to get away with dirty tactics
Excuse #5 He waited until Pac was out of his prime. 5 years ago Pac would've KO'd him.
Excuse #6 He beat Pac now he's afraid of a rematch(did you not hear this about Marquez?)
Excuse #7 Pac is still a better legend than him. At least he's not a woman beater.
That sums up about 90 % of the excuses we will hear after this fight. And I doubt any Pacfans will stay around too long to give us the other 10.
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Originally posted by mrjax View PostThose are good points, but neglect the fact that Manny has turned down mandatory blood tests. Bob Arum said it was because he (Arum) did not understand blood testing. One of the top managers in the world did not understand testing? That is su****ious.
There was also the fact that was the perfect punch on a guy who was leaning in with his punch. My 10 year old son would have been able to knock him out with that. It was the perfect storm to get oneself knocked out.
In 3 fights, Marquez never put Manny down. Then in fight #4, Marquez did it twice. Sorry but Memo is an admitted PEDs cheat who says that he can get the "right stuff" in Mexico easily. Not a problem. Undetectable PEDs but since they only tested after the fight, it really didn't matter much.
Plus we now see Marquez coming into fights with side affects (eg. body acne).
If Marquez is willing to drink his own urine to get the edge, with Memo by his side, it just doesn't look good.
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