Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Pacquiao Might Take a Knee and Quit!

[mrjax]

Nothing on him physically suggests that he was ever on PEDS. If he was, something about his body or performance would've changed. It's common sense. His performance is identical as well. You all have no proof. However, you do have proof with Marquez. We do have reasons to suspect Floyd of possible usage leading into this fight. He has no reason to be affiliated with Memo or Ariza. For what? He is bigger than ever before, why???? The USADA took 4 tubes of blood from Manny the other day and couldn't spar, because he was tired. Now, how many tubes did this tainted agency take from Floyd? Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's Floyd who is the cheat? Maybe it's Floyd who is jealous of Manny's success and accomplishments in the sport of boxing?

Depends on what you consider proof. A well timed and perfect punch?

I am a Manny fan also, but I am also open minded enough to know that since the allegations, he has lost a bit of knock out power. Probably because of his age, but it has been lost. Also, he did refuse testing with some piss poor excuses. On the same line, Roach said he didn't trust Ariza's protein drinks. So, without any physical evidence, it is still su****ious.

Floyd does have reason to be affiliated with Memo and Ariza, they are real good at what they do. It is su****ious that Floyd is with them, but to defame an entire organization as being bribed, seems a bit off to me. I am reasonable sure that USADA took just as much blood from Floyd, do you really think that even if they were being paid off, they would be that obvious about it? Maybe neither are on PEDS. Roach may have known Ariza is going to Floyd's camp and was doing what Roach does best, which is stir up ****.

And the bottom line that everyone seems to be missing is that if Manny's camp really did believe that Floyd was juicing and that he had the USADA on his side, then why didn't they ask for independent verification? Seems to me that would be the smart thing to do and pretty obvious of an answer. It would also force Floyd into the exact position he would never want to be in, refusing a fight because of testing.

Sorry, conspiracies just do not make any sense with a little logic put behind them.

[TheWinners]

I believe that Manny is just a special fighter who comes once a lifetime. He is Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran, and Ray Leonard. Nothing on him physically suggests that he was ever on PEDS. If he was, something about his body or performance would've changed. It's common sense. Manny has always had killer stamina, a natural punch, superhuman like speed of hand and foot. Now, what has changed about these facts since one man named Floyd started accusing him of PED usage? Manny's body looks EXACTLY the same. His performance is identical as well. You all have no proof. However, you do have proof with Marquez. We do have reasons to suspect Floyd of possible usage leading into this fight. He has no reason to be affiliated with Memo or Ariza. For what? He is bigger than ever before, why???? The USADA took 4 tubes of blood from Manny the other day and couldn't spar, because he was tired. Now, how many tubes did this tainted agency take from Floyd? Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's Floyd who is the cheat? Maybe it's Floyd who is jealous of Manny's success and accomplishments in the sport of boxing?

His performance isn't identical. He can't even get rid of natural 140 pounders. Both Rios and Algeri were fighting at WW for the first time and Pac couldn't stop or KO them. He was knocking out guys left and right who came in as super middleweights on fight night. That is if he didn't weight drain them.

Whatever Pac was doing then, he's not doing it now. Logically explain to me why Pacquiao had a big problem with testing 5 years ago when he was dominating top fighters. But 5 years later after taking a crushing defeat to Marquez and fighting small guys and not being able to stop them, he's ok with random drug testing now? What was the difference 5 years ago and now?

I'll tell you. A. He's fighting ****ty comp and he can't even KO them. Completely opposite of what he was doing several years ago. B. He's willing to submit to random drug testing even though 5 years ago he wanted cutoff dates. Only a bias blind idiot denies these facts and makes excuses.

[ADP02]

Man people are pathetic. All I can say is I don't recall Marquez having a problem with any kind of drug testing demands or demanding cut off dates. The worst thing I could do if I want to convince people I'm clean is demand a cut off date for testing. Anyhow I can't wait to hear the excuses when Mayweather dominates this guy.

Excuse #1 Floyd ran the whole fight and didn't stand toe to toe.
Excuse #2 Those Ariza shakes really helped
Excuse #3 He paid those judges well
Excuse #4 He paid the ref to get away with dirty tactics
Excuse #5 He waited until Pac was out of his prime. 5 years ago Pac would've KO'd him.
Excuse #6 He beat Pac now he's afraid of a rematch(did you not hear this about Marquez?)
Excuse #7 Pac is still a better legend than him. At least he's not a woman beater.

That sums up about 90 % of the excuses we will hear after this fight. And I doubt any Pacfans will stay around too long to give us the other 10.

Funny enough, Floyd and his fans came up with some of those excuse when Floyd fought Maidana in their first fight.

Excuse #1: Floyd said that its not a coincidence that Maidana was stronger with Ariza (PEDs).
Excuse #2: Maidana was a dirty fighter.
Excuse #3: The ref had a bad night.
Excuse #4: Maidana was promoted as a KO artist. Just before the fight, Maidana's approved gloves..... Well, Floyd said Maidana was not allowed to wear them. What???
Excuse #5: Maidana's trainer was mean. He told Maidana to fight dirty.


Then in fight #2,
- ring got bigger,
- ref was who Floyd wanted.
- A judge who gave Floyd the win in fight 1 judged fight #2.
- Maidana still can't fight with approved gloves.
- Floyd crying to the ref.

[mrjax]

Excuse #1 Floyd ran the whole fight and didn't stand toe to toe.
Excuse #2 Those Ariza shakes really helped
Excuse #3 He paid those judges well
Excuse #4 He paid the ref to get away with dirty tactics
Excuse #5 He waited until Pac was out of his prime. 5 years ago Pac would've KO'd him.
Excuse #6 He beat Pac now he's afraid of a rematch(did you not hear this about Marquez?)
Excuse #7 Pac is still a better legend than him. At least he's not a woman beater.

That is "second best syndrome". For years they have been coming up with reasons why Duck Gayfeather, or whatever childish name they came up with, wouldn't fight Manny. They pontificated about how Manny would easily beat him and gave reasons why it was so. Now that the reality of the fight is here, they are coming up with excuses. Reality has a way of slapping one in the face like that.

I have never been so torn about a fight since Kovalev and Hopkins. Huge fan of both of them and I had no real favorite. Same with this fight, I appreciate both of their styles for different reasons. I find Mayweather to be pretty distasteful, but on the other hand I really want to see Pac fans get their feelings hurt.

[Mr. Philadel]

Sure, crack head! Just make sure Memo's giving Floyd the KO shake, he's going to need it against Pac. That being said, Floyd's going to get beaten up so badly he will come up with a reason to quit. 3 more weeks to go, enjoy it while you can, it is about to end.

you ever seen Sr. smoke crack?...I said SEEN not HEARD mutha****a!!

[jbpanama]

His performance isn't identical. He can't even get rid of natural 140 pounders. Both Rios and Algeri were fighting at WW for the first time and Pac couldn't stop or KO them. He was knocking out guys left and right who came in as super middleweights on fight night. That is if he didn't weight drain them.

Whatever Pac was doing then, he's not doing it now. Logically explain to me why Pacquiao had a big problem with testing 5 years ago when he was dominating top fighters. But 5 years later after taking a crushing defeat to Marquez and fighting small guys and not being able to stop them, he's ok with random drug testing now? What was the difference 5 years ago and now?

I'll tell you. A. He's fighting ****ty comp and he can't even KO them. Completely opposite of what he was doing several years ago. B. He's willing to submit to random drug testing even though 5 years ago he wanted cutoff dates. Only a bias blind idiot denies these facts and makes excuses.

Hey Man, Pac knew if he kept KOing Cats...

He'd never get the FRAUDSTER, to step up to the Plate...

Come back, on May 3rd, and we'll check out your Boxing IQ...

U might have to change your name From Winner, to Whinner!!!

[TLC8]

Mayweather Klan Smoking Crack...Again; Floyd 2 KO's In 9 YEARS!!!

Floyd doesn't hurt anyone, doesn't drop anybody, doesn't KO anyone. We'll see Floyd on ***** Street when Manny rocks him and Floyd is holding, trying to get to the ropes to stay vertical. Every fight they talk about Floyd knocking someone out or hurting someone, and he hurts nobody unless you look at the referee and break with your hands down begging to be sucker punched.

[Wizardsh]

I hope all these these pac and Floyd groupies die already they are the cancer of the sport

[Easy Work.]

Man people are pathetic. All I can say is I don't recall Marquez having a problem with any kind of drug testing demands or demanding cut off dates. The worst thing I could do if I want to convince people I'm clean is demand a cut off date for testing. Anyhow I can't wait to hear the excuses when Mayweather dominates this guy.

Excuse #1 Floyd ran the whole fight and didn't stand toe to toe.
Excuse #2 Those Ariza shakes really helped
Excuse #3 He paid those judges well
Excuse #4 He paid the ref to get away with dirty tactics
Excuse #5 He waited until Pac was out of his prime. 5 years ago Pac would've KO'd him.
Excuse #6 He beat Pac now he's afraid of a rematch(did you not hear this about Marquez?)
Excuse #7 Pac is still a better legend than him. At least he's not a woman beater.

That sums up about 90 % of the excuses we will hear after this fight. And I doubt any Pacfans will stay around too long to give us the other 10.

the out of his prime excuse is hillarious because floyd is older lmao

[KRITKL]

I hope all these these pac and Floyd groupies die already they are the cancer of the sport

I'd happily push them off a cliff.