Why are people suddenly defending Sanctioning Bodies?

[TheRoger]

Basically all this belt nonsense and 'unified' and 'undisputed' championship garbage started so Don King could make championship money from Tyson four or five fights before he challenged and won the real title from Spinks. This lead to 25 years of total confusion about who was the real 'champion' at any weight class.

[djt117]

LMAO, you guys are ****ing bipolar. Honestly, I cant believe people even care about the belts anymore. I cant remember the last time I cared about the belts.

I hope Haymon creates one centralized PBC belt and eliminated the need for sanctioning bodies. And people would **** on that as if the WBC is the savoir of boxing. I just really dont understand people. They let bias and perceptions cloud their judgement even if its completely against what they originally stood for.

Because right now the only chance we have to see a Haymon fighter fight anyone good outside that stable is through mandatories that are enforced by sanctioning bodies

Now (perhaps because they fear PBC trying to marginalize them), they're talking about forcing unifications, which is awesome.

If the WBC lives up to its own pledge, Aduckis Chickenson won't be able to avoid Kovalev any longer and we'll have ONE (yes, ONE) Light Heavyweight champion. What's not to like about that?

[Chex31]

**** outta with that UFC ****


"PBC World champ" LOL

[Aztekkas]

How could you improve something by separating it into two?

PBC is becoming it's own entity and it's attempting to remove itself from the rest of the sport. We may have too many belts in the sport but that doesn't change the fact that the sanctioning bodies operate on a global scale, PBC seems restricted to the US and UK, for now(and who knows how long, if ever before they branch out).

You claim to be sick of the promoter/HBO vs Shotime wars yet fail to realize that by PBC gaining momentum, those so called wars will be child's play for what's to come. Not only would you have PBC vs the rest of the promotional companies and promoters but what about the fighters themselves caught up in the crossfire? What about the fighters who grind themselves to the top of the division but get zero respect/attention because they aren't under Haymon's league, yet you'll have the number 10 guy of the division represented as the top dog on PBC broadcasts just because he's with Haymon lol.

I embrace change and all but this entire situation seems off and if you can't see how much more friction the PBC league will cause in the sport as a whole, I have no idea what to tell you.

Consolidating one world champion is a key component for the betterment of the sport, but driving promotional companies to extinction and having one man control a global sport is ******ed, to say the least.

You seem to hate Arum and his company but don't you see Haymon simply snatched up Arum's blueprint and took it one step further? In House fighting for their own fictional belts, lmao. How much would you praise Arum if he was attempting to create his own sanctioning body and neglect/disregard the big 4? You wouldn't, because it doesn't make much sense in the grand scheme of things.

The sanctioning bodies need to keep their word and consolidate one champion and the sport needs some type of formal regulation. To assure no more belts are produced and that fighters face each other regardless of who promotes them, or else they get stripped or removed from their respective rankings. Those two tweaks would do wonders but now that the WBC, WBA and IBF are attempting to work together you have Haymon walking in pushing their belts off the table and setting up shop with his own schemes.

Time will tell and like I have said millions of times before.. if PBC crashes and burns, the entire sport will suffer. Dozens of quality fighters will perish and end up in limbo while Al scurries away with his lion's share nicely tucked in his pockets.

Another thing worthy of note, how much confusion would occur when the casual fans begin to actually seek out more broadcasts and land on HBO, Shotime and the dozen other boxing broadcasters? What will happen when they begin to realize that there is more than one champion and that most of the Champions under the PBC league aren't as highly regarded as those outside of it? It's all a God damn mess

but hey, atleast we get free boxing...

[Bigg Rigg]

Haymon thinks he can do whatever the **** he wants. Dique PBC World Titles..... That ninja done lost his mind bro.

[fragilety]

How could you improve something by separating it into two?

PBC is becoming it's own entity and it's attempting to remove itself from the rest of the sport. We may have too many belts in the sport but that doesn't change the fact that the sanctioning bodies operate on a global scale, PBC seems restricted to the US and UK, for now(and who knows how long, if ever before they branch out).

You claim to be sick of the promoter/HBO vs Shotime wars yet fail to realize that by PBC gaining momentum, those so called wars will be child's play for what's to come. Not only would you have PBC vs the rest of the promotional companies and promoters but what about the fighters themselves caught up in the crossfire? What about the fighters who grind themselves to the top of the division but get zero respect/attention because they aren't under Haymon's league, yet you'll have the number 10 guy of the division represented as the top dog on PBC broadcasts just because he's with Haymon lol.

I embrace change and all but this entire situation seems off and if you can't see how much more friction the PBC league will cause in the sport as a whole, I have no idea what to tell you.

Consolidating one world champion is a key component for the betterment of the sport, but driving promotional companies to extinction and having one man control a global sport is ******ed, to say the least.

You seem to hate Arum and his company but don't you see Haymon simply snatched up Arum's blueprint and took it one step further? In House fighting for their own fictional belts, lmao. How much would you praise Arum if he was attempting to create his own sanctioning body and neglect/disregard the big 4? You wouldn't, because it doesn't make much sense in the grand scheme of things.

The sanctioning bodies need to keep their word and consolidate one champion and the sport needs some type of formal regulation. To assure no more belts are produced and that fighters face each other regardless of who promotes them, or else they get stripped or removed from their respective rankings. Those two tweaks would do wonders but now that the WBC, WBA and IBF are attempting to work together you have Haymon walking in pushing their belts off the table and setting up shop with his own schemes.

Time will tell and like I have said millions of times before.. if PBC crashes and burns, the entire sport will suffer. Dozens of quality fighters will perish and end up in limbo while Al scurries away with his lion's share nicely tucked in his pockets.

Another thing worthy of note, how much confusion would occur when the casual fans begin to actually seek out more broadcasts and land on HBO, Shotime and the dozen other boxing broadcasters? What will happen when they begin to realize that there is more than one champion and that most of the Champions under the PBC league aren't as highly regarded as those outside of it? It's all a God damn mess

but hey, atleast we get free boxing...

great post, you said everything i wanted to and more, i don't post much and wouldn't have taken the time to type all that

also ever since i watched that awful wwe presentation on saturday i noticed the championship situation and have been waiting for a thread like this to pop up

[buddyguns]

The way I see it, is Haymon as of right now controls about half the star power in boxing.

Half the star power uses a PBC belt, the others use the 5 million ABC belts.
What belt is going to have more pull? The 5 milion belts on premium networks where only the hardcores see it getting more and more convulted with horrible fighters having belts or the Network TV boxers using one centralized belt in each division??

Would Al Haymon be willing to let Rigondeaux come fight Santa Cruz for the PBC title, considering that Rigondeaux doesn't make him any money? I believe we both know the answer to that. Sure the sanctioning bodies are scum, but a year from now every casual fan of the PBC will believe that Santa Cruz is the best Super Bantamweight in the world. If you think that fighters from other countries have a hard time getting their deserved shot at a championship with the sanctioning bodies, how easy will it be for them to get a shot at a great fighter in a separate league? There are 20,000 plus boxers throughout the world with 68 belts across 17 weight divisions. Do you believe that the PBC can bring clarity to that by narrowing it down to 17 belts?

The second that Al Haymon puts on a truly competitive fight, I might start to believe that he's actually going to bring clarity or better the sport of boxing. Until then, I'll just view him as an ******* that's trying to dumb down the sport by using a hybrid of the WWE and UFC business models.

[Cinci Champ]

Because the best fighters in boxing are not all signed under Haymon. The only way the PBC Belt will work is if he works with other promoters.

It's a good idea if everybody is willing to work together. But that's never been and never will be the case.

they will be in 10 years

[Cinci Champ]

Haymon thinks he can do whatever the **** he wants. Dique PBC World Titles..... That ninja done lost his mind bro.

that ninja just had most watched boxing card in 25 years on his first go think its safe to say its gonna work

[Weebler I]

LMAO, you guys are ****ing bipolar. Honestly, I cant believe people even care about the belts anymore. I cant remember the last time I cared about the belts.

I hope Haymon creates one centralized PBC belt and eliminated the need for sanctioning bodies. And people would **** on that as if the WBC is the savoir of boxing. I just really dont understand people. They let bias and perceptions cloud their judgement even if its completely against what they originally stood for.

People talk about the belts all the time, love them or hate them, they provide the sport with a structure.

that ninja just had most watched boxing card in 25 years on his first go think its safe to say its gonna work

I think Adamek-Cunningham drew a higher figure.