Why are people suddenly defending Sanctioning Bodies?

[Luiz]

The way I see it, is Haymon as of right now controls about half the star power in boxing.

Half the star power uses a PBC belt, the others use the 5 million ABC belts.
What belt is going to have more pull? The 5 milion belts on premium networks where only the hardcores see it getting more and more convulted with horrible fighters having belts or the Network TV boxers using one centralized belt in each division??

Sorry but no.
Ring P4P

1 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. SHO

2 WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO HBO

3 MANNY PACQUIAO HBO

4 ROMAN GONZALEZ HBO

5 GUILLERMO RIGONDEAUX OFF

6 TIM BRADLEY HBO

7 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ HBO

8 CARL FROCH FREE

9 CANELO ALVAREZ HBO

10 GENNADY GOLOVKIN HBO

[Da Machine]

It's not going to happen.
But keep on trolling.

Honestly, you should just accept it at this point. Its ****ing happening. The lot of you are like the media calling Glen Beck crazy for predicitng the caliphate. Well mother ****ers the caliphate is here and so is Haymons caliphate.

[Da Machine]

Sorry but no.
Ring P4P

1 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. SHO

2 WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO HBO

3 MANNY PACQUIAO HBO

4 ROMAN GONZALEZ HBO

5 GUILLERMO RIGONDEAUX OFF

6 TIM BRADLEY HBO

7 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ HBO

8 CARL FROCH FREE

9 CANELO ALVAREZ HBO

10 GENNADY GOLOVKIN HBO

Sorry, but yes. I dont see what a P4p list has to do with star power. Who are those guys going to fight?

[Spray_resistant]

You guys are just going to have to accept the fact that a monolpy is coming, and things are changing. Changing in big ****ing way, and ive noticed on this forum people ****ing hate change no matter if its good or not. They ****ing hate it, they would rather cum to Rios vs Alvorado brought you by scumbag Arum on HBO then see the sport grow with Haymon on NBC. But change is coming I assure you.

PBC has too many fighters now and the rest of boxing is to scattered, disorganized, and unwilling to work together to make a comeback against it. In time, PBC getting 4 -5 million viewers on NBC vs 1m people watching the other half. PBC is going to leave everyone i the dust as far as stardom and popularity. The time will come where if you are not with PBC, you are not considered a top fighter in the sport. The same way people from Bellator os something are not in the same league as UFC fighters.

Its happening. Deal with it. And me personally. I welcome change. Anything then what boxing has become the last 3 decades.

It honestly would be better if Al gained control of 100% of the game and led a World Boxing League of sorts but until then it will leave the sport fragmented and the best fighters not with him could end up never fighting the best who are with him.

We all just want competitive fights, no mismatch showcases, the best highly ranked fighters in divisions fighting their counterparts.

[Pigeons]

Because the best fighters in boxing are not all signed under Haymon. The only way the PBC Belt will work is if he works with other promoters.

It's a good idea if everybody is willing to work together. But that's never been and never will be the case.

It's the UFC model.

Make your brand synonymous with the sport. UFC to MMA, PBC to boxing.

Pay fighters more than the competitors.

Eventually when the fighters that you don't have become free agents, they want to join to join the most recognizable, highest-paying promotion.

[bojangles1987]

The way I see it, is Haymon as of right now controls about half the star power in boxing.

Half the star power uses a PBC belt, the others use the 5 million ABC belts.
What belt is going to have more pull? The 5 milion belts on premium networks where only the hardcores see it getting more and more convulted with horrible fighters having belts or the Network TV boxers using one centralized belt in each division??

Haymon controls 2 divisions, and most his fighters outside of those divisions are ridiculed because they don't fight anyone, since Haymon doesn't have control of those divisions.

[Da Machine]

It's the UFC model.

Make your brand synonymous with the sport. UFC to MMA, PBC to boxing.

Pay fighters more than the competitors.

Eventually when the fighters that you don't have become free agents, they want to join to join the most recognizable, highest-paying promotion.

This guy gets it.

[Mitchell Kane]

It's the UFC model.

Make your brand synonymous with the sport. UFC to MMA, PBC to boxing.

Pay fighters more than the competitors.

Eventually when the fighters that you don't have become free agents, they want to join to join the most recognizable, highest-paying promotion.

Will the PBC be the highest paying promotion when they're no longer spending investor's money?

The UFC can put on fight cards for a fraction of what it cost to put on the Thurman-Guerrero fight card.

[ИATAS]

But it's weird because Haymon clearly does care about the belts and the sanctioning bodies. Peter Quillin is only fighting Andy Lee because Lee has the WBO belt (Saunders is the mandatory for the WBO and he accepted money to step aside from Haymon and a guaranteed fight against the winner. Why go through all that trouble if you don't care about the belts?). Haymon set up Kameda vs McDonnell for a ridiculous eliminator when McDonnell has one of these lesser WBA titles and Payano has the actual title. Paying sanctioning fees to the WBC for Garcia's title in a non title fight, etc.

So I'm not exactly sure what Haymon's plan is, eventually building a stable of "champions" and then create his own PBC belts? I dunno. But he clearly isn't ignoring the ABC's entirely.

All that matters to me is if he is putting on good fights. If he has good fights, cool let's do this. If not, forget about it. I don't care about how many titles there are, which ones are legit, etc. as long as there is some clarity.

Obviously things are going to be super annoying in certain divisions though, Deontay Wilder obviously isn't The heavyweight champion of the world. Peter Quillin & Jacobs aren't the best at 160, Rigondeaux & Frampton, etc. etc. etc. it's going to be annoying watching the PBC guys be called the best when clearly they're not (assuming PBC fighters aren't going to be fighting the GGG's, Rigo's, etc).

[Mitchell Kane]

Haymon as of right now controls about half the star power in boxing.

Mayweather and Pacquiao alone account fore more than "half the star power in boxing", and neither one fights for the PBC.

Canelo and Cotto are stars, but secondary stars, and neither one fights for the PBC.

So you're math seems off.