Educate me on the Klitchko Brothers. What Hall of Famers have they beat?

[DreamFighter]

he shouldda been writing speeches for Adolf, he loved his 'facts' too.

[yoz]

Vitali is unbeatable. There is no blueprint to beat him. He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced. Has never truly lost. Has never been behind on the scorecards at the end of a fight. Has never been knocked down. Has the greatest heavyweight champ KO% of all time. He is the most intimidating HW of all time. He is the only man ever to be World HW Champ in boxing and kickboxing. He's 40 years old now. He came back after a 4 year layoff and is still dominating the HW division. Hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.

[Ravens Fan]

Tucker would blind Vitali and outmanoeuvre Wlad at his own game, he was way too fast.

Bruno would KO Wlad, though Vitali might be too much.

Holmes would comfortably beat them both.

Witherspoon and Smith would have a fair chance against either brother. Aha Tim didn't fight Tyson, mind you.

If I remember correctly Tucker got out jabbed by Tyson and he had eight inches on him. Tony also never beat anything resembling a top ten fighter on a regular bases. Holmes fought some really horrible fighters, so if you want to criticize the Klit bros and then somehow give Larry a pass. Than n my opinion you lose credibility. Bruno was knocked out by anything resembling a good fighter to include a couple that were not big punchers. And before you spout off about Wlad's overrated glass chin. He gassed in two of his TKO loses. Smith was out boxed by Marvis Frazier while the supposed "Bone Crusher" was in his prime. As for Witherspoon he like the most of the others you mentioned never had a successful title defense. And it wasn't because they were all as equally great as each other. In my opinion it was because they were all as equally average as each other. And if the Klit bros were average fighters they also would be swapping title belts with the other average fighters. Much like what was going on back in the 1980's and 1990's before Tyson cleaned up the mess.

[DreamFighter]

cheers for the reply dude.

If I remember correctly Tucker got out jabbed by Tyson and he had eight inches on him.

then again who did beat prime Tyson with a jab over a whole fight? no one. seems you have no argument there. Tucker did however keep Tyson at bay for the whole fight with his jab, whilst nursing damage to one hand.

Tony also never beat anything resembling a top ten fighter on a regular bases.

how did he win the IBF world crown without fighting top ten fighters?

Holmes fought some really horrible fighters, so if you want to criticize the Klit bros and then somehow give Larry a pass.

actually we arent discussing resume, we are discussing H2H. But suddenly when you are losing the argument you want to change your argument, and you have the gall to tell me I am losing credibility. nice one.

Bruno was knocked out by anything resembling a good fighter to include a couple that were not big punchers. And before you spout off about Wlad's overrated glass chin. He gassed in two of his TKO loses.

and didn't gass when Corrie Sanders koed him fast. But Corrie gassed when Vitali stopped him, so I suppose that a Corrie win to you?

Smith was out boxed by Marvis Frazier while the supposed "Bone Crusher" was in his prime. As for Witherspoon he like the most of the others you mentioned never had a successful title defense.

Now I never said they would beat the Klits easy, but they would have a fair chance. Don't rewrite the post to save your loss, I think I've already told you.

In my opinion it was because they were all as equally average as each other. And if the Klit bros were average fighters they also would be swapping title belts with the other average fighters. Much like what was going on back in the 1980's and 1990's before Tyson cleaned up the mess.

Tyson was in jail in part of the 90s. How did he clean up then? Did he have a secret way out of prison like Gerard Butler in Law Abiding Citizen.

thanks for your input anyway, matey, I like a debate.

[Simurgh]

Vitali was never down in the boxing match.

In that Sander's fight there is no even a punch...
Vitali's body/skin might be fragile, but his chin is invincible.

[DreamFighter]

Vitali was never down in the boxing match.

your friend seems to argue differently to you. He feels that 'a KO is a KO', including all the weak Klitschko stoppages. So he must agree that tko6 and quitali are KOs too, but no he wont concede to logic.

Do you agree with him, or me? You cant agree with both. Choose.

Vitali's body/skin might be fragile, but his chin is invincible.

wrong way round - the chin is one of the weakest parts of the human frame, that's why people hit it rather than pummelling the body which takes much longer to weaken.

you need to try to make sense. thanks for the input anyway mate.

[yoz]

Vitali was never down in the boxing match.

In that Sander's fight there is no even a punch...
Vitali's body/skin might be fragile, but his chin is invincible.

I don't know about the Sander's fight. Vitali was stunned, and he did take a clean shot just before the 'push' down.

Anyway, you're right. I'm just stirring

[Simurgh]

your friend seems to argue differently to you. He feels that 'a KO is a KO', including all the weak Klitschko stoppages. So he must agree that tko6 and quitali are KOs too, but no he wont concede to logic.

Do you agree with him, or me? You cant agree with both. Choose.


wrong way round - the chin is one of the weakest parts of the human frame, that's why people hit it rather than pummelling the body which takes much longer to weaken.

you need to try to make sense. thanks for the input anyway mate.

Vitali's chin is his weakest part?!?! What the hell is wrong with you?

Yes Vitali was stopped twice due to injury and due to cuts, but NO he was never down - not once!

And TKO is TKO, not KO...

[Simurgh]

I don't know about the Sander's fight. Vitali was stunned, and he did take a clean shot just before the 'push' down.

Anyway, you're right. I'm just stirring

Sanders found his best punch and put it as cleanly as possible directly on Vitali's chin. And that happened while Vitali was swinging hard...

I can't think of more than 2-3 HW champions in the history that would take that punch without being KD.

It shook Vitali, but he never lost the balance. His movement across the whole ring didn't show any weakness in his legs. Some 12-15 seconds after that Sanders pushed Vitali down, without a single punch. It is very clear from the video, no need for further clarification.

Anyway, you're right. I'm just stirring

[Trapsetter]

Vitali's chin is his weakest part?!?! What the hell is wrong with you?

Yes Vitali was stopped twice due to injury and due to cuts, but NO he was never down - not once!

The punches he took from lewis were brutal.