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    #81


    Having fun viewing the ownage in this thread dealt to the OP

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      #82
      Originally posted by kbpoetree View Post
      The ref's job is to make sure the rules are "clear" and instructions in the ring ARE understood...
      he waved both fighters to the center and said let's go. wasn't that clear enough? everyone understood it besides ortiz.

      Originally posted by kbpoetree View Post
      Cortez never shouldve let Ortiz go in for the 70th hug
      you can hardly fault cortez for that, it's easier to say that after the fact. that's why the rule PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES is in effect.
      Last edited by John Barron; 09-29-2011, 10:48 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post
        kbpoetree,

        floyd mayweather understood it was time to fight.
        keith kizer understood it was time to fight.
        ringside officials understood it was time to fight
        .

        ortiz made 3 mistakes after the point deduction

        1. he didn't pay attention to ref instructions.
        2. he didn't put his guard up.
        3. he looked at the ref after he just got chin checked. even fucking amateurs know better.

        nobody, and i mean nobody would be putting heat on cortez had the dumb, immature puto put his guard up and the round went on. it was nobody's fault but ortiz's.
        You have to watch the post fight presser and listen to mayweather when he was asked if he heard Cortez call time in before you say all of this, and its on 24/7 episode 5

        Kaizer, is not going to look out for Ortiz, he had two officials who ****ed up he doesnt want that heat on the commisson becuase it would then boil down to how he is training these guys.

        The time keeper did not think time was in which is exactly why he and Cortez were busy speaking to each other while Floyd was sucker punching Ortiz

        if you think different explain it....

        Also keep in mind Cortez lost his mother that day, you think perhaps some friends at work are going to feel bad for him? IMO they swept this **** under the rug rather than dealing with it head on and addressing the problem

        Originally posted by kbpoetree View Post
        theres no doubt that "may" is the option of the ref...i understand that for sure..again tho ni my opinion if this werent a ppv fight w big name fighters 9times outta 10 the guy headbutten like that wouldve been DQ'd instantly....not just a point taken away..he got the benefit of the fans basicly by not getten dq'd Cortez knows this....like u've said NEITHER fighter is really at fault and i feel Floyd is least at fault(again just me) Ortiz had no reason to go for ANOTHER hug after his first few attempts..sounds like i'm haten on Ortiz but the man grew up in KS right next to where i'm from so I had some luv for him...Cortez didnt handle it right but the commissions tho havnt faulted him yet either
        I have no idea why you guys bring up the hugging, obviously the kid felt pretty bad about what he did, I have no problem with him trying to make it clear that he was sorry its the right thing to do especially when you beleive time has been called again if the commission faults Cortez, they bring into question three officials
        Cortez
        Time keeper
        Kaizer himself
        and dont argue that this is not a corrupt sport, we all know the truth

        Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
        No-one was getting offended. Bar you. If you look back at your posts you tell people to not get personal or take things personally; yet you take things said on here personally.
        When you start attacking my son, you are making it personal.... Bottom line is, Floyd didnt even hear time in, watch the post fight presser on 24/7 episode 5 and listen to Floyd when he is asked about that....
        he basicly admitted he did it in retaliation and that he never heard Cortez call time back in...
        SO whats that tell you? he threw those shots knowing he could be DQd

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          #84
          Originally posted by Come∂ian View Post
          Having fun viewing the ownage in this thread dealt to the OP
          whats this ownage you speak of, nobody has come back and debated the rules here...
          They cant its that simple..... they have been reduced to personal insults which basicly spells out defeat in my eyes

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            #85
            Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
            whats this ownage you speak of, nobody has come back and debated the rules here...
            They cant its that simple..... they have been reduced to personal insults which basicly spells out defeat in my eyes
            Cortez waved his hands together and said "Lets Go". This isnt a hard concept to understand except for novice fans or haters that scramble together irrelevant info to prove their pointless opinion. Nobody was b1tchin Cortez's whole career as a ref when he kept saying "Lets Go" now its an abomination. This weekend watch the Martinez fight and I'll bet you'll see the ref break them apart and say something other then "Fight" to get them to return to the bout. Make sure you make a thread complaining about it that same night. If your're gonna have outrage be consistent about it.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post
              he waved both fighters to the center and said let's go. wasn't that clear enough? everyone understood it besides ortiz.


              you can hardly fault cortez for that, it's easier to say that after the fact. that's why the rule PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES is in effect.
              well most Refs usually keep the fighters at a distance by using their arms spread out then making sure time is in..then looken at the fighters and sayen lets go...I'm not blaming Cortez jus simply saying if anyone is more at fault it is him...as far as "actual written" rules go....defend urself at all times is indeed their but with that ur sayen during the break the fighter should b up and guarded? and i mean the 1min break...lol...again Ortiz is at fault as well...i dont put any blame on Mayweather really and u seem to think thats what i'm getten at..look at my sig geez

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                #87
                Originally posted by Come∂ian View Post
                Cortez waved his hands together and said "Lets Go". This isnt a hard concept to understand except for novice fans or haters that scramble together irrelevant info to prove their pointless opinion. Nobody was b1tchin Cortez's whole career as a ref when he kept saying "Lets Go" now its an abomination. This weekend watch the Martinez fight and I'll bet you'll see the ref break them apart and say something other then "Fight" to get them to return to the bout. Make sure you make a thread complaining about it that same night. If your're gonna have outrage be consistent about it.
                You either havent a ****ing clue, or you just love Floyd that much, I say its a mix of both.
                The bottom line is, All parties must be on the same page, as stated in the rules, meaning all must be in tune with terms that will be used to command the fight.
                That did not happen how much more proof do you need? Clearly Ortiz thought time was called...

                The time keeper was confused as well when Cortez said lets go.... which is why he was talking to him when the cheap shots went down..

                And mayweather at the post fight presser said he didnt hear Cortez say lets go or Box, what the **** does that tell you? I mean your own boy is saying he never heard him.....

                Again what does that mean?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
                  You either havent a ****ing clue, or you just love Floyd that much, I say its a mix of both.
                  The bottom line is, All parties must be on the same page, as stated in the rules, meaning all must be in tune with terms that will be used to command the fight.
                  That did not happen how much more proof do you need? Clearly Ortiz thought time was called...

                  The time keeper was confused as well when Cortez said lets go.... which is why he was talking to him when the cheap shots went down..

                  And mayweather at the post fight presser said he didnt hear Cortez say lets go or Box, what the **** does that tell you? I mean your own boy is saying he never heard him.....

                  Again what does that mean?
                  It means that the fight was staged..after the headbutt Ortiz said to Floyd.."is there wheres i dont look and then u hit me" Floyd said "yes" then they touched gloves to make sure they both were on the same page...then Cortez did say lets Go and ridiculously looked at the time keeper and said are u ready?? lol...a stage...i tell ya a stage..lmao

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by flipbjefrox View Post
                    relax, this has been a terrible week for the *****s. 1st the ppv only did 800k. 2nd they found out floyd's testing was fake. 3rd people are starting to realize floyd's roid rage is legit
                    What? is this true? :O

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
                      You either havent a ****ing clue, or you just love Floyd that much, I say its a mix of both.
                      The bottom line is, All parties must be on the same page, as stated in the rules, meaning all must be in tune with terms that will be used to command the fight.
                      That did not happen how much more proof do you need? Clearly Ortiz thought time was called...

                      The time keeper was confused as well when Cortez said lets go.... which is why he was talking to him when the cheap shots went down..

                      And mayweather at the post fight presser said he didnt hear Cortez say lets go or Box, what the **** does that tell you? I mean your own boy is saying he never heard him.....

                      Again what does that mean?
                      On the same page? Both Floyd and Ortiz WALKED to the center of the ring AFTER Cortez said "LETS GO" and WAVED HIS HANDS TOGETHER...... how much more proof do you need?

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