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dont be ******...like who??? maidana?? gtfoh! lol -
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there's shouldn't be any extra tests in the first place, ESPECIALLY if manny is "easy work, easy money"Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
floyd always does the same thing. everyone's a bum, but when the time comes to fight them, they aren't big enough draws, the have to fight 5+ more to make it a big fight, they are from puerto rico, etc
dude's a coward, he even hits women. what a f@gComment
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Because of a combination of two things.....Originally posted by dldwizard View Post
1.) Manny has already killed the fight by refusing to undertake random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.....
2.) Team Pacquiao have talked sooooo much **** that nobody believes that Manny has suddenly agreed to a worst deal than he refused during an official negotiation.....Comment
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But you stated that Mayweathers OST request was unwarranted because.....Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
..... " pac has no history of juicing up ".
In each of the three examples that I provided, there was also no prior history involved..... so the principle in each of those three examples was identical.
That is no reason whatsoever to refuse a random blood test.
if Pac was fighting under amateur rules he would already have been stripped, banned, and labeled a drug cheat..... just for refusing the test.
That has got to be the very worst of the 7 different ridiculous excuses given by Team Pacquiao to justify ducking the random blood tests..... "because Floyd is not the commission".Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
Who cares?
OSTs are harmless, so do them anyway, regardless as to who asked.
That is the 2nd different excuse that you have used in that very short post.
Why would you need two different excuses unless the 1st one was crap ?
OSTs are completely harmless, and no reason whatsoever to kill a 40mil fight.
The " commission " did not enforce that 10mil per-pound weight penalty, so it seems like Team Pacquiao were a little "confused" over the role that they expect the commission to play in the negotiation for that fight?
OSTs just seem like an absurd reason to duck a $40mil fight.
Come on man, be realistic, you cannot blame folks for thinking that sounds highly su****ious?
Anyway, you seem to forget, Manny actually agreed to random blood tests, the issue was the cutoff date, so the "Floyd is not the commission" excuse, is rubbish..... just like the "pac has no history of juicing up" excuse.
Ummm..... nope.Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
Mayweather agreed to ALL of Pac's conditions, and he signed the contract, the fight died because Manny would not agree to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.
If Mayweather wanted to duck Pac he would never have agreed to 50/50, because Pac could have simply called his "bluff" and taken the test.
Come on man.....
How the *** did Mayweather know that an OST request would kill the fight ?
Why the hell would anybody refuse ?
Apparently Manny has NOW agreed to FULL testing, so why the hell would Mayweather suspect that the OST request would enable him to avoid fighting Pacquiao?
If Manny has no problem with random blood tests NOW, then why didnt he call Mayweather's "bluff" and agree to take the test during the negotiation?
Your rationale is completely illogical, it contradicts all available evidence, and it flies in the face of common-sense.
Clearly, for some strange reason, Manny did not want to undertake random blood tests..... and requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine.Comment
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Everytime someone says take the test, I just post this vid....
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We have two things.....Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
1.) FACT: a $40mil fight died because one of the participants would not agree to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff
2.) An internet " promise ", made out-of-negotiation, that the same participant will NOW agree to worse conditions than he previously refused
Can you understand why there is reluctance to believe that a team who invented 7 different ridiculous excuses to duck random blood tests last time, is likely to agree to even worse conditions this time around?
I agree with you in that Team Pacquiao are now on record stating that they will accept FULL WADA testing.
It is amusing that Mayweather announced his comeback just 2-3 weeks after Arum publicly stated that Pac will agree to full testing.
It looks like you are going to get your wish my friend.
Enjoy
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problem is, there's no evidence. that's why he isn't banned nor suspended, because there's absolutely no evidence about anythingOriginally posted by LeadUppercut View PostBut you stated that Mayweathers OST request was unwarranted because.....
..... " pac has no history of juicing up ".
In each of the three examples that I provided, there was also no prior history involved..... so the principle in each of those three examples was identical.
That is no reason whatsoever to refuse a random blood test.
if Pac was fighting under amateur rules he would already have been stripped, banned, and labeled a drug cheat..... just for refusing the test.
That has got to be the very worst of the 7 different ridiculous excuses given by Team Pacquiao to justify ducking the random blood tests..... "because Floyd is not the commission".
Who cares?
OSTs are harmless, so do them anyway, regardless as to who asked.
That is the 2nd different excuse that you have used in that very short post.
Why would you need two different excuses unless the 1st one was crap ?
OSTs are completely harmless, and no reason whatsoever to kill a 40mil fight.
The " commission " did not enforce that 10mil per-pound weight penalty, so it seems like Team Pacquiao were a little "confused" over the role that they expect the commission to play in the negotiation for that fight?
OSTs just seem like an absurd reason to duck a $40mil fight.
Come on man, be realistic, you cannot blame folks for thinking that sounds highly su****ious?
Anyway, you seem to forget, Manny actually agreed to random blood tests, the issue was the cutoff date, so the "Floyd is not the commission" excuse, is rubbish..... just like the "pac has no history of juicing up" excuse.
Ummm..... nope.
Mayweather agreed to ALL of Pac's conditions, and he signed the contract, the fight died because Manny would not agree to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.
If Mayweather wanted to duck Pac he would never have agreed to 50/50, because Pac could have simply called his "bluff" and taken the test.
Come on man.....
How the *** did Mayweather know that an OST request would kill the fight ?
Why the hell would anybody refuse ?
Apparently Manny has NOW agreed to FULL testing, so why the hell would Mayweather suspect that the OST request would enable him to avoid fighting Pacquiao?
If Manny has no problem with random blood tests NOW, then why didnt he call Mayweather's "bluff" and agree to take the test during the negotiation?
Your rationale is completely illogical, it contradicts all available evidence, and it flies in the face of common-sense.
Clearly, for some strange reason, Manny did not want to undertake random blood tests..... and requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine.
you boys just want to feel reassured that floyd isn't ducking the crap out of pacquiao. cotto lived in PR, so no fight. margarito wasn't a big enough draw and when he was, floyd retired. now pacquiao juices and needs to pay up 100 million
once a duck, always a duck
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actually, he announced his comeback just after pacquiao signed for another fight. quack quackOriginally posted by LeadUppercut View PostWe have two things.....
1.) FACT: a $40mil fight died because one of the participants would not agree to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff
2.) An internet " promise ", made out-of-negotiation, that the same participant will NOW agree to worse conditions than he previously refused
Can you understand why there is reluctance to believe that a team who invented 7 different ridiculous excuses to duck random blood tests last time, is likely to agree to even worse conditions this time around?
I agree with you in that Team Pacquiao are now on record stating that they will accept FULL WADA testing.
It is amusing that Mayweather announced his comeback just 2-3 weeks after Arum publicly stated that Pac will agree to full testing.
It looks like you are going to get your wish my friend.
Enjoy
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