Comments Thread For: Jean Pascal: Bernard Hopkins is a F**king Cheater!

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Hold up.. so Bhop aint on PEDs... But Pac is right??

I NEVER said that Pac was on anything but I tell you something. Pac is looking real suspect. ESPECIALLY when they asked Mosley to take one and when he agreed if Pac would. The tests request disappeared. ATLEAST Shane Mosley took the tests to fight Floyd because that is how bad he wanted to get in the ring with Mayweather Jr. Can't say the same about Pac. I tell you one thing. IF Manny is using (I don't know) but IF he is using, no matter what. That $h!t is going to catch up to him. Now.... can we move on from Pac/Floyd and focus on Pascal/Hopkins? I'm still looking for someone willing to bet on Pascal over Hopkins so I can take their points.

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Please tell me when you've ever seen 2 fighter agree on anything that wasn't in the contract? do you know what a contract is? with no contract B-Hop could agree to olympic style spinal taps yet there's nothing obligating him to do so, so he could change his mind whenever he feels like it. Mayweather wanted OSTs, he mentioned it during the negotiations; Pascal wants to OSTs he should have done the same.

But of course a ******* like you refused to answer the second half of my post, be honest now:

All the **** Mayweather is getting for wanting OSTs in the contract, if he had agreed to no OSTs, then on the first press conference had jumped up and started screaming "take the tests" what would your opinion be then?

Never mind, you don't have to answer, i know what your real answer would be anyways.

lol moron, do you know that contracts doesn't have to be in writing? do you also know that they can have another contract outside of the first one just to cover the additional drug testing? all they need is meeting of the minds or an agreement. if pascal want ost and bhop is agreeable to it then they can have another contract for that. the only difference between pascal and floyd is timing but it doesn't mean pascal's demand is less important...not for me but for a floyd apologist like you. at least you should've showed some support to pascal about this issue. but it's the opposite, you are more inclined to bash him. it's all about double standards and a sever case of fanboyism.

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I NEVER said that Pac was on anything but I tell you something. Pac is looking real suspect. ESPECIALLY when they asked Mosley to take one and when he agreed if Pac would. The tests request disappeared. ATLEAST Shane Mosley took the tests to fight Floyd because that is how bad he wanted to get in the ring with Mayweather Jr. Can't say the same about Pac. I tell you one thing. IF Manny is using (I don't know) but IF he is using, no matter what. That $h!t is going to catch up to him. Now.... can we move on from Pac/Floyd and focus on Pascal/Hopkins? I'm still looking for someone willing to bet on Pascal over Hopkins so I can take their points.

just a comment, but mosley would sell his soul to land a fight that he wants, so him taking tests really doesn't say anything because mosley doesn't negotiate, he just signs on the dotted line, whether it's in his benefit or not, whether it's detriment or not............. just sayin.

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lol moron, do you know that contracts doesn't have to be in writing? do you also know that they can have another contract outside of the first one just to cover the additional drug testing? all they need is meeting of the minds or an agreement. if pascal want ost and bhop is agreeable to it then they can have another contract for that. the only difference between pascal and floyd is timing but it doesn't mean pascal's demand is less important...not for me but for a floyd apologist like you. at least you should've showed some support to pascal about this issue. but it's the opposite, you are more inclined to bash him. it's all about double standards and a sever case of fanboyism.

Your first post said that contracts are not needed, now your saying the can have a new contract, yet i'm the moron. Sure, they could shake hands and say to each other they will take the tests, but that doesn't hold water and can't be backed up.

I'm not disagreeing with Pascal's request, just the motives and timing. I question B-Hop's reaction to the request, because he should have seen right through it for what it was; hype & mind games, something you cannot see.

Basically what i'm saying is Pascal should have mentioned this during the negotaitions without bring it up once the fight had been signed, had B-Hop still been against it then it would have been suspect, but an ambush at a press conference, emotions will fly regardless of wether he agrees with it or not.

Funny, you still refuse to respond to the second half of my post, but like i said i know what you'd say anyway.

But i'm done, i don't waste my time on the biased and ignorant.

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just a comment, but mosley would sell his soul to land a fight that he wants, so him taking tests really doesn't say anything because mosley doesn't negotiate, he just signs on the dotted line, whether it's in his benefit or not, whether it's detriment or not............. just sayin.

I gotta disagree, the reason Mosley was okay with it was cause he was getting a huge payday against one of the biggest names in boxing, clout that Pascal doesn't carry.

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I NEVER said that Pac was on anything but I tell you something. Pac is looking real suspect. ESPECIALLY when they asked Mosley to take one and when he agreed if Pac would. The tests request disappeared. ATLEAST Shane Mosley took the tests to fight Floyd because that is how bad he wanted to get in the ring with Mayweather Jr. Can't say the same about Pac. I tell you one thing. IF Manny is using (I don't know) but IF he is using, no matter what. That $h!t is going to catch up to him. Now.... can we move on from Pac/Floyd and focus on Pascal/Hopkins? I'm still looking for someone willing to bet on Pascal over Hopkins so I can take their points.

Lets be completetly honest here. Shane Mosley has been desperately looking for big money fights ever since his high cost divorce. He would basically sell his soul to the devil to get a fight done. I don't blame him either, he's been in a tough situation cause of his b!tch ex-wife!

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Lets be completetly honest here. Shane Mosley has been desperately looking for big money fights ever since his high cost divorce. He would basically sell his soul to the devil to get a fight done. I don't blame him either, he's been in a tough situation cause of his b!tch ex-wife!

yeah but at the end of the day he took the test lets just focus on that at this point leave the devil and his ex out of it, the thing is for $3000.00 all of the people defending pac for not taking the test would take it themselfs...

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I gotta disagree, the reason Mosley was okay with it was cause he was getting a huge payday against one of the biggest names in boxing, clout that Pascal doesn't carry.

uuumm, that is what i was saying........

mosley would do anything to get a fight that he wants???? mosley doesnt negotiate, he just signs.......... richardson has spoke about this many times and said that is mosleys Achilles heel in negotiations.............

opponent's demand " ost testing, my mother, sister, and uncle as judges, my grandfather as ref, 80/20 on the purse and you mosley have to wear 20 oz gloves................"

mosley retort " already signed bro, like before you were done demanding, gotta go, gotta start training, see you in the ring"

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yeah but at the end of the day he took the test lets just focus on that at this point leave the devil and his ex out of it, the thing is for $3000.00 all of the people defending pac for not taking the test would take it themselfs...

you only take the tests if you have no leverage........


and average people would take a test to get a big payday, but to a guy that has his own leverage and already has money, and self confidence doesn't have subject himself to such demands in hope to earn money.

there are more avenues to make cash for a guy like manny, floyd and drug tests have no leverage over him, manny is a draw, he's a money maker, succumbing to demands based off of slander doesn't hold any water.......

i would never give in to my opponent and his demands......... not unless it was beaten out of me......... and i think any REAL MAN would do the same.

[jtiger777]

pascal got outclassed by a 46 year old legend and he knows it he needs to get over it, its sort of like when my wife knows what she cooked isnt that good so she says "i didnt put enough salt in it so it may not be that good" pascal is just getting an excuse ready so that he has a reason for his loss and im sure all the bhop haters will latch on to this, so when he wins they can say he didnt take the test or hes juicing, if pascal wanted him to test he should have demanded it b4 the fight was done like floyd did!